Possibly yes
It would depend on how many datafiles in the "small" db compared to the 
production db, I am guessing that the nfile and maxfile values you have 
are too low for a production server.

Cheers


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Kirthi

NOTE Point 3) (Bottom) We were able to OPEN a Small Dummy Database 
on the Failing Production Server .

If the system wide limit for the number of simultaneously open files is 
exceeded
Would the Dummy Database OOEN Either ?
 
NOTE nfile = 200
max_files = 200
Approx 75 User processes All inclusive would exist on the machine

Thanks for responding
 
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Vivek,
You are right, this is an OS related issue, but a DBA must be aware of why
it happens ;) 

Error 23 means 'File Table Overflow' and it is generated when the system
wide limit for the number of simultaneously open files is exceeded. It is
controlled by a kernel parameter 'nfile'. which defaults to a value 
arrived
at by a formula that uses 'maxusers' (and a couple of other) kernel
parameters. You can check the values set for 'maxusers' and 'nfile' on 
these
servers, and get your SA to increase those on the server where you had a
problem starting the database. 

Use '/usr/sbin/kmtune -q <parameter>' command to check currently set value
for 'nfile' and 'maxusers'. 

Read more about 'nfile' at
http://docs.hp.com/hpux/onlinedocs/os/KCparam.Nfile.html.

HTH,

- Kirti 


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Solved 

Database OPENed Successfully on another HP-UX Box Without any ORA-1092 
The Same Oracle & OS Versions Existed on Both HP-UX Boxes .

NOTE Though ORA-1092 was often succeeded by the message :-
"Error Num 23"
NO Idea what Error Num 23 Stands for ? 
Thus This seems to be Some OS /Hardware Issue with the Previous Production 
Database 
on which the Database would NOT Open after OS RE_Installation .

For Problem Details Go Below . 
For Complete Details Either E-mail me Or See Tar Nums - 2263888.995  , 
9505435.7 
(If accessible)

Thanks to All & List

Vivek

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Hi Gopal,List

What are those UNdocumented Events ?

Thanks again

Vivek

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 Vivek:

 I guess SMON runs the command to get the details for regular cleanup.
 You can use few undocumented events to get the things done depending
 on the seriousness of the database. These events just asks the SMON to
 skip few things during recovery and pretty harmless.

 Best Regards,
 K Gopalakrishnan

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>
>
> Problem Still Existing .
>
> ora_3263.trc file :-
>
> ORA-01092: ORACLE instance terminated. Disconnection forced
>
> Current SQL statement for this session:
> select line#, sql_text from bootstrap$ where obj# != :1
>
> "bootstrap$" seems to tbe the CAUSE .
>
> Any Advice ?
>
> 1) "STATUS" in V$LOG shows 2 Groups as INACTIVE & the 3rd as CURRENT
> NOTE - Log Switches are Happening even in Mount State due to
> some internal Database Activity at the rate of about 5 Switched in 12
Hours
> .
> Size of Redo Logfile = 5M
>
> 2) RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL CANCEL Succeeds , But "ALTER DATABASE OPEN
> RESETLOGS" Also Fails
> with ORA-1092 like "ALTER DATABASE OPEN"
>
> 3) We Created a SMALL Dummy Database on the Same machine using the Same
> ORACLE_HOME which
> we were able to open eith the Same SGA as the Production Database . Thus
> Prima-facie the O.S.
> & Oracle S/w seem OK . We relinked the network & rdbms Components of
Oracle
> 7.3.4.0
> too though
>
> 4) Due to Root Disk Crash OS was RE-Installed , But Oracle Software
Existed
> Existed on another
> Hard Disk & was Simply Mounted back without any Change after the OS
> RE-Installation
>


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