Here in Canada I was told you can do it if you have a letter from your employer stating that they are unable to provide you with the training you require to stay up-to-date in your field.
I asked my previous manager if he could write me such a letter, he just grinned and said: "well, it should be our responsibility to provide you with the training you require to stay up to date in your field..." and no letter. Since then I spoke with a contractor here, who said that if I keep requesting for training and never get it, I can keep the e-mails as evidence and submit them along with my income tax forms. I'll give it a try, though I give it a 5% chance of success. The irony of all this is that I work for the Federal government here. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 6:22 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L In the US one can put training on their income tax forms, but the IRS will disallow it. Dick Goulet One of the disallowed! ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: "Boivin; Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 6/17/2002 12:05 PM I think this change will up the ante for corporations that do not send their staff to official training courses or expect that staff will keep up to date in their certifications on their own time and money, a $50 book out of one's own pocket doesn't compare with a $2000 course. Employees in Canada can't deduct training etc. before income taxes, only consultants can. I don't know if that's the case in the U.S. or the UK as well. Maybe more people will become consultants, but then again there is a bit of a crunch in the IT job sector right now. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 4:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Soon we will be required as a part of the hiring process to make a visit to Oracle for certification, medical check, and brain wash! Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 3:18 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I couldn't believe that, Ron, so I had to check it out myself. You're right: http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/index.html?dba9i_ocmpract.html <http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/index.html?dba9i_ocmpract.htm l> Oracle Certified Master DBA Practicum Exam An OCM candidate must successfully pass the Oracle Certified Master DBA practicum after having completed the required OU advanced learning requirements. The practicum will be conducted at an Oracle University facility in each global region. The location for Americas is Chicago, IL. The cost for the practicum is $2000.00 US Dollars. Locations for EMEA and APAC have not yet been determined. The practicum is a two-day, hands-on performance based event where candidates will be presented with numerous scenarios that will require them to diagnose and solve highly technical Oracle server related problems. Each candidate will have their own dedicated LINUX server that is configured with the Oracle server software, Oracle Enterprise Manager, and the Oracle documentation set. Topics on the practicum include core database technology, database configuration, replication, partitioning, parallel operations, diagnostics, troubleshooting, performance tuning, and backup and recovery. Candidates may also encounter ad hoc database problems that they will have to resolve, therefore simulating "real-world" database operations. Oracle tools such as Oracle Enterprise Manager, Data Guard, Flashback, Recovery Manager, and Oracle documentation will be available to candidates during the practicum. Candidates will be scored on their ability to successfully complete the scenarios and if they obtain a passing score they will be awarded the OCM certification. Based upon a candidate's performance during the practicum, they may not be awarded the OCM certification if they do not achieve the preset passing score. I think that the price tag is a way too high to start with, but the thing that really blew me away is that the test is on Linux only??? It's hard for me to believe that they won't let you take it on your platform of choice, especially for the hard-core-Windows guys out there. And I have to use Enterprise Manager? Give me a break - and a SQL> prompt. Brian ---------------------------------------------- | Brian McGraw /* DBA */ Infinity Insurance | | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ---------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- Rogers Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Did you check out the prices for the OCM? Two classes plus $2,000 for the exam the last time I looked into it. Can I take an upgrade exam to upgrade my OCM-7? Ron ROR mô¿ôm >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/17/02 02:14PM >>> Speaking of OCP...I got this from the OCP newsletter...I guess Oracle needs more revenue streams... Dear Oracle Certified Professional, Please acknowledge this correspondance as an official notification in regards to your pursuit of Oracle Certification. The Oracle Certification credential continues to provide leverage to those who have earned it, leading to increased demand for Oracle Certified Professionals among hiring managers. To help meet this demand and increase the value of the credential, Oracle is investing heavily in the betterment of certification exams and learning offerings. Oracle customers and business partners demand that their Oracle Certified Professionals have hands-on experience with all aspects of the Oracle database. To meet our commitment to customers and constituents, three distinct changes are being rolled out with the goal of increasing the level of quality of our certification skill and ability benchmarks: Scenario-based testing in all new Oracle Certified Professional track exams (as of January, 2002) Instructor-led class requirement for all Oracle9i DBA Certified Professionals (as of June 15, 2002) A new hands-on Masters Practicum (available October, 2002) The OCP Oracle9i DBA track requires four tests: two required tests for OCA certification plus two additional tests. Oracle now also requires (as of June 15, 2002) that all newly starting OCP credential candidates complete one hands-on course with Oracle University in preparation for their exams and future role as an Oracle technologist. Because you are already an Oracle Certified Professional, you are not required to complete any course requirements to upgrade your credential to Oracle9i status. You will simply be required to take the appropriate OCP DBA upgrade exam(s). The Masters Practicum exam will be launched during October 2002 at regional centers around the globe. This credential will prove to the market that each Oracle Certified Master has demonstrated the ability to be successful on the job. To learn more about this credential, view our website's section specific to the OCM program. The program requires that candidates first earn their OCP for Oracle9i, and then complete two advanced courses from Oracle University. The website includes a list of courses that can be applied to meet the requirement. After fulfilling the course requirement, candidates can schedule an appointment for their practicum exam. The exam is a two-day event at a regional Oracle University center involving hands-on, job-performance-based testing using Oracle9i Database technologies. For more information, visit www.oracle.com/education/certification, or phone your local Oracle University representative. A complete listing of local Oracle University representative phone numbers can be at www.oracle.com/education/index.html?contact.html. Thank you for your understanding of Oracle's commitment to excellence and continued quality for the Oracle Certification Program. 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