Nothing surprising. Oracle is so big that "one head doesn't know what another head does." At least when they don't have to certify pieces together 8-)
The only problem with current Oracle GUI is Java... from another point, this makes (ok, suppose to) the same GUI working on differnet platforms. I personally would prefer different looking but fast GUI than working the same slow. Perhaps, the comand line is the best GUI we can get. :) - always fast and always the same. -- Alexandre ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:48 PM > Can I get an Amen??? :) > > ---------------------------------------------- > | Brian McGraw /* DBA */ Infinity Insurance | > | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > ---------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 9:38 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Brian, come one hard core oracle people know that windoze is not a real > OS. > > And hard core oracle people only use the Oracle GUI tools, no toad or > any of the rest of that crap, OEM runs on linux, i dont see a stinkin > toad running on anything other than windoze and we all know the unix > heads(including myself) live and die by the command line, its the only > way to live. > > joe > > > Brian McGraw wrote: > > > I couldn't believe that, Ron, so I had to check it out myself. You're > > right: > > > > > http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/index.html?dba9i_ocmpract. > html > > > > Oracle Certified Master DBA Practicum Exam > > > > An OCM candidate must successfully pass the Oracle Certified Master > > DBA practicum after having completed the required OU advanced learning > > > requirements. The practicum will be conducted at an Oracle University > > facility in each global region. The location for Americas is Chicago, > > IL. The cost for the practicum is $2000.00 US Dollars. Locations for > > EMEA and APAC have not yet been determined. > > > > The practicum is a two-day, hands-on performance based event where > > candidates will be presented with numerous scenarios that will require > > > them to diagnose and solve highly technical Oracle server related > > problems. Each candidate will have their own dedicated LINUX server > > that is configured with the Oracle server software, Oracle Enterprise > > Manager, and the Oracle documentation set. > > > > Topics on the practicum include core database technology, database > > configuration, replication, partitioning, parallel operations, > > diagnostics, troubleshooting, performance tuning, and backup and > > recovery. Candidates may also encounter ad hoc database problems that > > they will have to resolve, therefore simulating "real-world" database > > operations. Oracle tools such as Oracle Enterprise Manager, Data > > Guard, Flashback, Recovery Manager, and Oracle documentation will be > > available to candidates during the practicum. > > > > Candidates will be scored on their ability to successfully complete > > the scenarios and if they obtain a passing score they will be awarded > > the OCM certification. Based upon a candidate's performance during the > > > practicum, they may not be awarded the OCM certification if they do > > not achieve the preset passing score. > > > > I think that the price tag is a way too high to start with, but the > > thing that really blew me away is that the test is on Linux only??? > > It?s hard for me to believe that they won?t let you take it on your > > platform of choice, especially for the hard-core-Windows guys out > there. > > > > And I have to use Enterprise Manager? Give me a break ? and a SQL> > prompt. > > > > Brian > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > | Brian McGraw /* DBA */ Infinity Insurance | > > > > | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Rogers > > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:34 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > Did you check out the prices for the OCM? Two classes plus $2,000 for > > > > the exam the last time I looked into it. Can I take an upgrade exam to > > > > upgrade my OCM-7? > > > > Ron > > > > ROR mô¿ôm > > > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/17/02 02:14PM >>> > > > > Speaking of OCP...I got this from the OCP newsletter...I guess Oracle > > > > needs > > > > more revenue streams... > > > > Dear Oracle Certified Professional, > > > > Please acknowledge this correspondance as an official notification in > > > > regards to your pursuit of Oracle Certification. > > > > The Oracle Certification credential continues to provide leverage to > > > > those > > > > who have earned it, leading to increased demand for Oracle Certified > > > > Professionals among hiring managers. To help meet this demand and > > > > increase > > > > the value of the credential, Oracle is investing heavily in the > > > > betterment > > > > of certification exams and learning offerings. Oracle customers and > > > > business > > > > partners demand that their Oracle Certified Professionals have > > > > hands-on > > > > experience with all aspects of the Oracle database. To meet our > > > > commitment > > > > to customers and constituents, three distinct changes are being rolled > > > > out > > > > with the goal of increasing the level of quality of our certification > > > > skill > > > > and ability benchmarks: > > > > Scenario-based testing in all new Oracle Certified Professional track > > > > exams > > > > (as of January, 2002) > > > > Instructor-led class requirement for all Oracle9i DBA Certified > > > > Professionals (as of June 15, 2002) > > > > A new hands-on Masters Practicum (available October, 2002) > > > > The OCP Oracle9i DBA track requires four tests: two required tests for > > > > OCA > > > > certification plus two additional tests. Oracle now also requires (as > > > > of > > > > June 15, 2002) that all newly starting OCP credential candidates > > > > complete > > > > one hands-on course with Oracle University in preparation for their > > > > exams > > > > and future role as an Oracle technologist. > > > > Because you are already an Oracle Certified Professional, you are not > > > > required to complete any course requirements to upgrade your > credential > > > > to > > > > Oracle9i status. You will simply be required to take the appropriate > > > > OCP DBA > > > > upgrade exam(s). > > > > The Masters Practicum exam will be launched during October 2002 at > > > > regional > > > > centers around the globe. This credential will prove to the market > that > > > > each > > > > Oracle Certified Master has demonstrated the ability to be successful > > > > on the > > > > job. To learn more about this credential, view our website's section > > > > specific to the OCM program. The program requires that candidates > first > > > > earn > > > > their OCP for Oracle9i, and then complete two advanced courses from > > > > Oracle > > > > University. The website includes a list of courses that can be applied > > > > to > > > > meet the requirement. After fulfilling the course requirement, > > > > candidates > > > > can schedule an appointment for their practicum exam. The exam is a > > > > two-day > > > > event at a regional Oracle University center involving hands-on, > > > > job-performance-based testing using Oracle9i Database technologies. > > > > For more information, visit www.oracle.com/education/certification, or > > > > phone > > > > your local Oracle University representative. 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