And what pain do you create by backing up the online redo logs anyway? Considering you are backing up the database anyway-the online redo logs will not add hours to that cycle.. It's worth the effort, cuz those puppies are like gold(as well as the archived logs)..
Been burnt one too many times as Jared has indicated about shutdown immediate... greg -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:38 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ohhhh, here we go again. I don't care what logic, documentation, oracle support and/or common sense have to say on the matter. Back up those redo logs! Just don't restore them unless you need them. 'shutdown immediate' doesn't always work the way one would hope, especially on Windoze NT. I've restored a database here which required those online redo logs for recovery. Think of it as cheap insurance, and one less reason to keep your resume up to date. Jared chal_ping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/19/2002 05:38 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: RE: Online vs offline backups Ferenc Mantfeld >The same person that advocated a cold backup >did not back up the online redo logs, so what use was it anyway, since the >only way they would force open their DB is with a resetlogs option anyway. For cold backup, oracle does not recommend backup the online redo log. And if you restore the whole cold backup, why need the online redo log? I am sure people doing cold backup will do shutdown normal/immediate, not shutdown abort.So there is no need to backup the online redo log at all! Backup the online redo log also take the risk of damage the current online redo log when you want to do full recovery. So, never backup the online redo log when doing cold backup. chal_ping [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: chal_ping INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >W?z^r&?,B?m?(ک?a 2ZR?eb?aZ?IǬ?tQ@_|?9ӝRjpz jXh?ZqǬXDCTL?kaɚXXǧu1,jk r+rrׄ\?Ѯv)鞲Ơxb)ܖ^jXy?x5%9,B^ XX*.ޭ騽_ɩlǧv^Brjw_-?byb.n? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Loughmiller, Greg INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).