The Chauncey certification exam (singular) was a failure because:
1) It didn't parrot/require enough Oracle ILT material
2) Oracle Corp didn't get a big enough cut
3) It was more scenario-based - requiring more understanding and less
"knowledge"

OCP is more like a "learner's permit".  The Chauncey certification was more
like a chauffeur's license.

Don Granaman
[OraSaurus - Just say NO(CP)]

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Well that explains a lot. In a separate post Rachel also said Oracle
denigrated the prior Chauncey/IOUG tests so it's obvious that Oracle is just
using testing and certification as another source of revenue. Professional
Development of the DBA community is just marketing hype. All the more reason
to avoid the 9i tests.

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The original certification program was developed by IOUG when Mike Corey was
president of the group.  I cannot remember if the program ever certified
anyone other than those who built it.   Once Oracle had its own
certification program  the IOUG one withered.

The relationship between ORACLE and its user groups have not always been
friendly.  The OAUG's complaints have made the national press.  If my memory
serves, and its already been shown to be faulty,  the first OOW-Americas was
scheduled to be at the same time as the IOUG-A.   Corey indicated he was
going to see Ellison and explain to him that he couldn't do such a thing,
that OOW-Americas would have to be rescheduled.  Ellison was not moved,
neither was the OOW-Americas conference; the IOUG-A get together was :)

To its credit IOUG-A live is seen as a more credible than the marketing show
known as OOW.  However I doubt the conference would maintain its value if
Oracle sent no one.   If the IOUG had a competing certification program,
Oracle would do its best to snuff it out.

Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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