I don't know. Sort of makes me feel like a poodle. Henry ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 9:13 AM
> The question is, are you going to allow your > clearminded moral stance and total disdain for a > thinly veiled DBA tax to interfere with your pursuit > of filth lucre? *I* ain't! > > ;) > > It is just another hoop to jump through so that a > hring manager can say "that is an impressive hoop you > jumped through" and you can respond "yes, and I can > jump through some hoops for you too" and allow them to > say "here is an outrageous sum of money to work on our > computers." > > I love this job. > > jack silvey > ocp 7.3, 8.0, 8i, 9i > > > --- Don Granaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They aren't - unless it exceeds a non-trivial > > percentage (6%? 7%? more? I > > can't remember now...) of their income and is > > "required" (?). > > > > This new requirement for OCP is just another in a > > long line of > > propaganda/baloney from Oracle in its never-ending > > attempts to suck up every > > buck it possibly can. [Oracle likes $$$$$. HR > > likes mindless checklist > > items. It is a match made in heaven.] I thought > > that the "need practically > > any two ILT classes, no matter how irrelevant" 9i > > OCM was going to be the > > limit of extending the the greedy grab for OCP bucks > > - for 9i at least. > > This isn't about certification anymore (as if it > > ever was), its about > > revenue. > > > > Since this "new requirement" (for the moment at > > least) doesn't apply to > > upgrade from an 8i certification, does anyone know > > if there is (or soon will > > be) a new constraint/surprise/ambush limiting that > > to 8i OCP obtained prior > > to, oh say, June 15, 2002? September 2002? > > > > Don Granaman > > [OraSaurus - with more disdain than ever for the > > evil vampire Larry's OCP > > DBA tax] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:23 AM > > > > > > > I thought employees were not allowed to write > > things off as business > > > expenses... > > > > > > Confusedly yours, > > > Patrice Boivin > > > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:13 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Subject: RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet > > again > > > > > > Are you trying to promote it? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 6:50 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > I am seriously considering pursuing one, since it > > can > > > be sold to hiring managers as a sign of > > professional > > > competence. > > > > > > Look at it from a cost/benefit ratio standpoint. > > Will > > > someone with this cerifification make $2000 more > > over > > > her professional life than she would without? > > > > > > So it takes a round trip ticket and three days of > > > vacation. Get the company to pay for it or write > > it > > > off as a business expense. > > > > > > Good investment, easy money, instant credibility > > to > > > many hiring managers. > > > > > > jack silvey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 19 Jun 2002 at 4:38, Ron Rogers wrote: > > > > > > > > Date sent: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 04:38:18 -0800 > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > > > ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > It seems that our list has made mention in > > this > > > > report from > > > > > Searchdatabase.com. And Oracle is trying to > > > > justify the $2000 expence. > > > > > If I read this correct the $2000 is for 9i > > OCP. > > > > > ======= > > > > > LEAD STORY > > > > > > > > > > ORACLE FUELS CERTIFICATION CONTROVERSY | > > > > SearchDatabase > > > > > Oracle has a new requirement for its potential > > > > certified > > > > > professionals, and the price tag is about > > $2,000. > > > > Many DBAs aren't > > > > > happy about the new policy but Oracle says the > > > > class makes their > > > > > certification more valuable than ever. Read > > the > > > > details of the new > > > > > mandate, and what DBAs and industry experts > > have > > > > to say about it. > > > > > > > > > > For the full details, click: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.searchdatabase.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid13_gci833782,00.ht > > > ml > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > > > > http://www.orafaq.com > > > > -- > > > > Author: Eric D. 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