Apologies for dragging the list through this again.
Thanks for your responses.
T.

At 06:03 PM 7/8/02 -0800, you wrote:
>we've had this discussion here before..
>
>OpenWorld has more Oracle presentations, many of which have a definite
>marketing slant. I was very frustrated at the percentage of "this is
>how we say it works" presentations vs "this is how it works out in the
>real world" presentations
>
>IOUG has almost all user presentations, so they are more "real world"
>applicable.
>
>If I had to choose only one, it would be IOUG.
>
>
>--- Tim Levatich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi, All.
> >
> > Before this thread ends, take a swing at this, please:
> > Assuming one can only attend a single conference per year, which is a
> >
> > better value, IOUG or OpenWorld?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > At 12:07 PM 7/8/02 -0800, you wrote:
> > > >-you can't very well write it off.
> > >
> > >Enron and Worldcom accountants can.  ;o)
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:39 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >That wasn't a dig at anyone, Rachel.  It may be worth it, but if you
> > don't
> > >have the means to begin with, you can't very well write it off.
> > >
> > >Scott Shafer
> > >San Antonio, TX
> > >210-581-6217
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:19 PM
> > > > To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject:      RE: 2003 IOUG Meeting
> > > >
> > > > I realize that it helps that I don't have kids so I have "spare
> > cash"
> > > > (no cash is ever really spare and I have very old, very expensive
> > cats)
> > > >
> > > > but it IS tax-deductible, at least in part and it's worth it. At
> > least
> > > > to me. and yes, I have gone and paid all costs myself
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > If you have the money...
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott Shafer
> > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > > 210-581-6217
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From:     Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent:     Friday, July 05, 2002 11:18 PM
> > > > > > To:       Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > > > Subject:  RE: 2003 IOUG Meeting
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I NEVER get to see every presentation I want to see there.
> > For my
> > > > > > money, IOUG is the BEST conference around and more than worth
> > the
> > > > > money
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rachel
> > > > > > --- Stephen Andert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Add to that the cost of getting there (Orlando FL for
> > 2003),
> > > > > > > transportation to/from the airport
> > > > > > > hotel (4-6 nights at around $200/night depending on what
> > hotel
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > stay
> > > > > > > at)
> > > > > > > some meals (lunch is usually provided, some evening events
> > > > > include
> > > > > > > enough food for dinner)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That said, I hope that doesn't scare your company off.
> > IMHO,
> > > > > this is
> > > > > > > the best investment you can make in your DBA's.  (I can't
> > speak
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > developers.)  Both years I've gone, I was frustrated
> > because
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > more sessions that I wanted to attend that I could since
> > they
> > > > > were at
> > > > > > > the same time.  This year, there were no sessions that I
> > attended
> > > > > > > that I
> > > > > > > didn't learn something from.  Many of the sessions
> > generated a
> > > > > list
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > "to do as soon as I get back to the office".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hope to see you there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Stephen
> > > > > >
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