Wow Joe, sounds like a religious conviction... I'm impressed because I'm of the same persuasion but I'm not quite so pious/zealous and am still somewhat enslaved to the M$ beast/devil because of the company usage of Exchange with MS Outlook for Calendar and workflow. I run Linux on the laptop via VMWare but because of the Outlook dependency, running Pine, Mozilla or whatever is not a viable email solution for me. Sigh...
Having run Oracle/Linux servers in production for over a year now I conclude that the platform is not just viable but is promising. Unix, Linux, and Windows are part the present with significant installed bases so that also means they will be part of the future. How long that future will be and how much future presence there will be is anybody's guess I guess. Good and Evil abound. :-) Steve Orr -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Thats were you're wrong, i dont use microsoft products, all of my development and presentations that i make are non microsoft products. for IOUG presentations, requirement is to put them in msword and powerpoint, i convert from star office to those formatrs and have someone proof them so i know the conversion went ok. so NO I DONT PIRATE software, dont need to since all that i run is free. And yes feel free to look at the headers of this email, its from mozilla on linux. :) selling my IT manager is easy on linux, since I'm the CTO of Data Management Consulting, and selling using linux for development is just as easy at client sites. Outradeious prices absolutely but everywhere i've been they've already had oracle in-house so there was no selling to do. joe ltiu wrote: >Oracle. It's only free during development/education. Charges will be >exhorbitant when getting production licenses. > >Windows and SQL Server is free too - if you pirate, right? It's what every >one does : > > >Linux is free but trying to sell this to your IT manager is not. > >On Sunday 14 July 2002 12:43, Joe Testa wrote: > >>I dont think the "classic" unix that you speak of will go away that >>fast, too many solaris/aix/hpux machines floating around still. >> >>I do any development/testing of features on linux, it cost me nothing >>but the hardware. >> >>RH 7.3 downloaded, no cost. >> >>technet member 9ir2 oracle downloaded, no cost. >> >>it only makes sense. >> >>joe >> >>Andrey Bronfin wrote: >> >>>hi ! >>>i might start another war , but i can't resist a part of me which wants to >>>ask : >>>what do you , seasoned gurus, think of everybody's (as it seems to be) >>>plans to abandon the "classic" unix for linux ? >>>In particular , most database vendors (as well as other enterprise >>>software vendors) name linux as the future #1 platform for their DBs >>>(especially given the fact that a DB cluster is not rare any more). >>>It also looks like many development shops shift their efforts to develop >>>on windows (or , in some rare cases, linux ) instead of unix . >>>What do you think about this ? >>> >>> >>>DBAndrey >>> >>>* 03-9254520 >>>* 058-548133 >>>* mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).