mine have too... but as a generic rule, I'd wait until the backup was
done, unless I trusted my SA 


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> Rachel,
> 
>     You can say that if you want, I trust my SA's.  And that they've
> earned the
> HARD way.
> 
> Dick Goulet
> 
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: Rachel Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:       7/22/2002 11:15 AM
> 
> um, I'd schedule step 6 AFTER the backup finishes... I've seen idiot
> SA's who start the backup then shutdown the machine or kill the
> process
> before it completes.....
> 
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I have, no fun.  But at least your only fooling around with one
> > tablespace
> > and/or file vs. the entire database.  The method is rather simple:
> > 
> >     1) The tablespace/datafile are already offline, SMON does this
> > for you
> > unless it's SYSTEM in which case your not doing this in the first
> > place.
> > 
> >     2) Get your SA to restore the datafiles(s) from tape back to
> > where they
> > belong.
> > 
> >     3) startup SQL*Plus as internal.
> > 
> >     4) Alter database recover tablespace/datafile as you normally
> > would.
> > 
> >     5) Alter tablespace/datafile online.
> > 
> >     6) Miller time.  (After the SA schedules/starts a hot backup of
> > the entire
> > DB).
> > 
> > Want to try one?  Take a DB that's in archive log mode & either in
> > development
> > or test.  Use production ONLY if your suicidal.  Take the datafile
> or
> > tablespace
> > offline for a little while.  Now try to bring it back online.  Then
> > go to step 4
> > above.
> > 
> > Dick Goulet
> > 
> > ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> > Author: "Vergara; Michael (TEM)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date:       7/22/2002 8:13 AM
> > 
> > I read your rant, and I agree with you.  But I do have
> > one little itsy bitsy question...
> > 
> > > I also asked them how they'd put a tablespace in
> > > backup mode.  Simple enough, right?  Not one of them
> > > got it right.  Not even close.  Didn't have clue as to
> > > what I was talking about.  Fair enough, you don't
> > > know.  Well how about a simple recovery scenario.  I
> > > asked every candidate how they would do an online
> > > recover of a datafile while the database was still in
> > > use.  No ideas.  Not even close.
> > 
> > How DO you do an online recovery of a datafile while the
> > database is still in use?  I've had to do recoveries before,
> > but never this scenario.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
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