That happens even to us SAs who are also DBAs (or vice versa).  About five
years ago, I was explaining DCL and VMS to a new co-worker and describing
how I help protect against accidental file deletion by having "DEL*ETE :==
DELETE/LOG/CONFIRM" in my SYS$LOGIN:LOGIN.COM.  So, I confidently issued a
"DEL *.*.*" -- in SYS$LIBRARY -- after running AUTOGEN.  Seasoned VMS SAs
know that AUTOGEN quietly deletes all global symbols, including those
protecting accidental file deletes.

After a "Putz!" comment from our Operations group, the files were given an
emergency restore.  The thing is that I knew better.  Doing DBA work in
Oracle, however, has made me even more paranoid.  Hasn't happened since and
I don't rely on site addons to protect me from myself.

"Now I know, and knowing is half the battle."
             -- G.I.Joe, a real American Hero

:)

Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]              Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:14 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re:RE: Rant
> 
> 
> you betcha. 
> 
> okay, I'll tell a story on myself. I really am usually very careful
> about doing something that is a sweeping change without 
> checking either
> the directory I'm in or doing it so that I have to confirm.
> 
> VAX/VMS, in my home directory. I could have SWORN I was in a temp
> directory, my login was supposed to be set up to tell me the directory
> I was in. It wasn't, 'cause I did the VMS equivalent of "rm *" and
> deleted EVERYTHING in my home directory (scripts, notes, 
> login profile)
> 
> I very meekly called the data center and asked them to please please
> restore my directory from the prior night's backup tape. After they
> stopped laughing, they made it a rush. See, I used to buy 
> them pizza if
> I had to ask them to work late and do extra stuff.
> 
> I know my limitations. I'm a pretty good general DBA but I ain't an SA
> 
> Rachel
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