What you said is right, Oracle can dictate terms on me, because I have
already implemented the system and spent a great deal in customizing it.

But the point is that I have to live with the mistakes that someone else made
in the past by overestimating the user base. e.g. For some modules we have
1000 user license, whereas the total strength of the company is around 500
only even today. Mind you, the license was bought 2 yrs back when the
strength was only half as much!

I don't want to discontinue the support altogether, I just want to renew it
for lesser number of users. No point in having 1000 user license when
actually only 50 people are actually using it!!

Anyways, the negotiations are still on. I hope Oracle gets willing to concede
a bit.

Naveen

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-- Naveen Nahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Maintenance cost is much less to the purchase cost, but how can a company
> force us to renew the support contract? I'm ready to live without the
> support because I have not implemented a few modules. Does that mean that
> either we have to pay the support price till the time we decide to start
> using the modules(and every year thereafter too), or will have to buy it
> again?

Because you have a contract to use the product which states
that Oracle can turn off the license if you do not purchase
support or a given number of seats. They're Oracle, you're
not. You can tell them to get lost and see if they decide to
sue you for illegal use of their product; short of that you
are stuck with the contract terms unless Oracle is willing
to change them for you.

That or dump Oracle for another product whose vendor gives
you better licensing terms. One reason Open Source software
has been catching on is that people get sick of licensing
issues. I am not advocating that you dump Oracle for Postgress,
but this is a good example of what makes people think twice
about using OS when it does meet their needs.

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