> Q: Does anyone know of any reliable 3rd party support for > Oracle?
Yes. Dial www.miracleas.dk. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic, Oct 1-3 San Francisco, Oct 15-17 Dallas, Dec 9-11 Honolulu - 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas - Next event: NCOAUG Training Day, Aug 16 Chicago -----Original Message----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:18 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well, that's not really fair. There are a number of good people that work for Oracle Support. True, there are also some that are subpar, but how often is it necessary to open a TAR anymore? MetaLink has vastly improved over the past couple of years. I've called Oracle for a TAR once in the past 18 months. Some excellent in depth posts that you may have seen on this list were put there buy Oracle support personnel. No, I'm not saying who they are. Jared Rodd Holman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/14/2002 09:53 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: Oracle Arm Twisting? Yes, Oracle support sucks, and is staffed with morons. However one thing you get with Oracle support that you cannot get with third party support is bug fixes and product upgrades. If you want this without a support contract, you need to buy new licenses each time you upgrade. Rodd On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 11:13, Steven Lembark wrote: -- Naveen Nahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Now they say, that this can't be done and the product license will be > terminated if we want this. The thing is that Oracle support is useless(I > get more help from this forum :) ), but we still want it, just in case. Ever heard of "FUD"? That's what Oracle is selling you if you think their support is that bad: fear of not having support that you don't want because you think it's bad. -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 +1 800 762 1582 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Steven Lembark INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Cary Millsap INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).