> Q:  Does anyone know of any reliable 3rd party support for
>     Oracle?

Yes. Dial www.miracleas.dk.


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Well, that's not really fair.  There are a number of good people
that work for Oracle Support.  True, there are also some that
are subpar, but how often is it necessary to open a TAR anymore?

MetaLink has vastly improved over the past couple of years.

I've called Oracle for a TAR once in the past 18 months.

Some excellent in depth posts that you may have seen on this
list were put there buy Oracle support personnel. 

No, I'm not saying who they are.

Jared





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Yes, Oracle support sucks, and is staffed with morons.  However one
thing 
you get with Oracle support that you cannot get with third party support

is bug fixes and product upgrades.  If you want this without a support 
contract, you need to buy new licenses each time you upgrade. 

Rodd 

On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 11:13, Steven Lembark wrote: 
-- Naveen Nahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Now they say, that this can't be done and the product license will be
> terminated if we want this. The thing is that Oracle support is 
useless(I
> get more help from this forum :) ), but we still want it, just in
case.

Ever heard of "FUD"? That's what Oracle is selling you if
you think their support is that bad: fear of not having
support that you don't want because you think it's bad.


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