OK, not to start a war, but those of us that have worked on both Unix and VMS know (or should know) that there are significant advantages (and therefore, disadvantages) to each. For example:
Advantages VMS -------------------------------------------------------------- User administration Queuing system for print/batch/server/custom. Flexible object security with or without ACLs. Error messages. Asynchronous system traps. DCL's structure Logicals! Stability Ability to enable user and process specific resource quotas. Unix --------------------------------------------------------------- Speed, speed, speed No-or-low-cost software RAID 1 and 0. Choice of shell or shells (flexibility) Numerous addons available for everything Stability Disadvantages VMS --------------------------------------------------------------- Proprietary (one vendor) Percieved lack of available software Inability of non-VMS types to properly or optimally program on VMS (see Oracle's DCL procedures and hokey setup). Slower I/O than Tru64 on same hardware. Software RAID 1 and 0 is a cost option. DCL's structure (!) Unix --------------------------------------------------------------- Many shell commands are inconsistent (e.g output from ls and grep) Lack of flexibility in object security without using ACLs (e.g. no delete bit in file access) User management Queuing Generic error messages That's just my take on it. I started working with VMS around 4.5 back in '87/'88. I now work mostly with HP/UX 11.0. I like Unix, but I do sorely miss the overall structure and consistency of VMS. I don't buy the "the rest of us are on *NIX" argument, either. "Everyone else" is on Windows and that sorry excuse can't hold a candle to a real server OS. </flame: off -- run for cover> :) Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Lembark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 12:44 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Unix question: how to display SID and path in prompt > > > > > -- "Jesse, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Starting in VMS 7.0 or 7.1 (I forget which), you *can* use pipes: > > > > $ GREP := SEARCH SYS$PIPE > > $ PIPE SHOW SYSTEM | GREP ora_ > > > > And it gets even better with "SET PROCESS/PARSE=EXTENDED" > on the Alphas... > > > > :) > > Uncle Kenny's ghost can enjoy them; the rest of us are > on *NIX :-) > > -- > Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer > Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).