Re: Oracle Internals course

[Tom Pall]

Title: RE: Oracle Internals course

Meaning you're not planning on letting your DBA go because Oracle now has now no initialization parameters to tweak (Wrong!), is self configuring, self maintaining, self tuning, self repairing? ----- Original Message ----- From: Khedr, Waleed To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 6:58 PM Subject: RE: Oracle Internals course I think the external visible Oracle stuff are enough to keep any DBA busy these days:)   -----Original Message----- From: Tom Pall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 5:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle Internals course That rumor's been going on for versions now.  As has been Scott's desire to offer a two week internals course.  Course participants would sign all sorts of non-disclosure forms then get a scaled down version of what's taught to Customer Support. Wait a minute! Customer Support takes these courses?  Surely not all the Silver Support people I've called.  A difficulty with a two week course is that the very DBAs most likely to benefit from the course are the ones least likely to be let free for two weeks.   The internals course is slated to be yanked every time a new version of Oracle comes out.  Why teach internals when there are no initialization parameters and the database maintains and tunes itself?  There's been an economic downturn and Oracle DBAs have lost their jobs.  But anybody know an Oracle DBA who lost his job because a later version doesn't require a DBA?  Oracle on CDs 1,2 and 3, huh?  I think if I dig enough I can find that old version of Oracle I had that came on a single diskette.   Scott says the internals course is purposely hidden.  You have to call Oracle directly and ask for it.  A number of people registered for the course from the paper or online catalogs, showed up then complained that they weren't about to get anything out of the course..  ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Wagner To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: RE: Oracle Internals course rumor has it that this course is not going to be offered/modified for the 9.2 release of Oracle.  Can anyone confirm or deny it?   Nick p.s. Had a close friend take this class, and they also came back extremely pleased with it. -----Original Message----- From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle Internals course Scott is the "instructors's instructor" he learns the new features, then teaches them to the instructors so they can teach them to you I had the pleasure of taking those classes with Scott a few years ago as well. He's a great teacher. If he is ever presenting at any conference you go to, GO SEE HIM --- Tom Pall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I took that very course with Scott a few years ago.  Yup, Scott flies > through the Internals and Dump/Traces courses with lots of extra > material to > spare.  It's really refreshing to hear him tell the class how the > developers > documented something then tell how it's actually built.  He keeps a > database > running in his notebook to prove what he says.  Scott's one great > teacher. > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:53 PM > > > I just wanted to say... > > If you have a chance to take the Oracle Internals course with Scott > Gossett > at Oracle, I highly recommend it. > > I wish I knew half of what he knows! > > The course isn't included in the OCP tracks, I think it should be > given a > higher profile though. > > Regards, > Patrice Boivin > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes > Technology Services        | Services technologiques > Informatics Branch         | Direction de l'informatique > Maritimes Region, DFO      | Région des Maritimes, MPO > > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Boivin, Patrice J >   INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services    -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California        -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Tom Pall >   INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services    -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California        -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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