Rachel, I'm not bucking for a management slot by being clueless about the details. Really I'm not. I registered online for the internals course by searching for it. I just kind of assumed from what Scott said that I just managed to luck out when I searched for the course and found it. I mistakenly assumed the course was quietly being removed from online registration after hearing Scott's statements about hiding and not publicizing the course. ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:58 PM
> I registered for it online, at education.oracle.com > > you have to search on seminars, not classes. It's difficult to find, > but it IS there > > > --- Tom Pall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RE: Oracle Internals courseThat rumor's been going on for versions > > now. As has been Scott's desire to offer a two week internals > > course. Course participants would sign all sorts of non-disclosure > > forms then get a scaled down version of what's taught to Customer > > Support. Wait a minute! Customer Support takes these courses? Surely > > not all the Silver Support people I've called. A difficulty with a > > two week course is that the very DBAs most likely to benefit from the > > course are the ones least likely to be let free for two weeks. > > > > The internals course is slated to be yanked every time a new version > > of Oracle comes out. Why teach internals when there are no > > initialization parameters and the database maintains and tunes > > itself? There's been an economic downturn and Oracle DBAs have lost > > their jobs. But anybody know an Oracle DBA who lost his job because > > a later version doesn't require a DBA? Oracle on CDs 1,2 and 3, huh? > > I think if I dig enough I can find that old version of Oracle I had > > that came on a single diskette. > > > > Scott says the internals course is purposely hidden. You have to > > call Oracle directly and ask for it. A number of people registered > > for the course from the paper or online catalogs, showed up then > > complained that they weren't about to get anything out of the > > course.. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Nick Wagner > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 3:23 PM > > Subject: RE: Oracle Internals course > > > > > > rumor has it that this course is not going to be offered/modified > > for the 9.2 release of Oracle. Can anyone confirm or deny it? > > > > Nick > > > > p.s. Had a close friend take this class, and they also came back > > extremely pleased with it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:wisernet100@;yahoo.com] > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:19 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: Re: Oracle Internals course > > > > > > > > Scott is the "instructors's instructor" > > > > he learns the new features, then teaches them to the instructors so > > > > they can teach them to you > > > > I had the pleasure of taking those classes with Scott a few years > > ago > > as well. He's a great teacher. > > > > If he is ever presenting at any conference you go to, GO SEE HIM > > > > --- Tom Pall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I took that very course with Scott a few years ago. Yup, Scott > > flies > > > through the Internals and Dump/Traces courses with lots of extra > > > material to > > > spare. It's really refreshing to hear him tell the class how the > > > > > developers > > > documented something then tell how it's actually built. He keeps > > a > > > database > > > running in his notebook to prove what he says. Scott's one great > > > > > teacher. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:53 PM > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to say... > > > > > > If you have a chance to take the Oracle Internals course with > > Scott > > > Gossett > > > at Oracle, I highly recommend it. > > > > > > I wish I knew half of what he knows! > > > > > > The course isn't included in the OCP tracks, I think it should be > > > > > given a > > > higher profile though. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Patrice Boivin > > > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > > > > > Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes > > > Technology Services | Services technologiques > > > Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique > > > Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO > > > > > > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > > -- > > > Author: Boivin, Patrice J > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 > > http://www.fatcity.com > > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting > > services > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and > > in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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