Oh no, I wouldn't dream of it! That is being saved for your up and coming UK
tour :) It's matured even more now as well.. ;)

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Carmichael
Sent: 07 November 2002 10:59
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just don't slip in that 32 year old Macallans! that one is MINE  :)

--- Mark Leith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds fair enough to me.. ;)
>
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>
> That reminds me:
>
> Mark, your annual stipend is due.
>
> Make it a case of Glenmorangie this time, Sherry finish.  :)
>
> Jared
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Hey Dennis,
> Mark Leith is the only person on this list allowed to mention 3rd
> party
> products.
> I am sure he bought the franchise from Jared :)
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: 06 November 2002 14:15
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>
>
> Prem - You are receiving some excellent advice from Tom and Tim. I
> would
> mention two items in addition:
>   - If you ever hope to re-use the data you archive off-line, you
> must
> also
> archive all the related tables, because after all, this is a
> RELATIONAL
> database.
>   - PrincetonSoftech has a product Active Archiving that looks pretty
> good
> from the demos I've seen. I haven't used it myself.
>
>
>
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 40%OCP
> Lifetouch, Inc.
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 6:54 AM
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>
> Prem,
>
> I would re-visit the requirement.  Why do you feel the need to delete
> the
> data from the database?  What is the purpose for this type of
> requirement?
> It would be far easier to modify the requirement than to do what you
> are
> thinking of doing.
>
> Adding columns to database tables indicating that a record has passed
> it's
> retention policy and thus, is not included in queries, would be a
> much
> easier solution.
>
> Or, simply moving these records to historical tables in the database
> - and
> NOT deleting them from the system - is a much better solution.  The
> data
> is
> always accessible and not available in the current tables.  And you
> will
> not
> be playing the "get the data from tape and reload it" game with all
> of
> it's
> problems (writing an offload program, table structure changes &
> offload
> program versions).
>
> Try and keep this as simple as possible.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Tom Mercadante
> Oracle Certified Professional
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:13 AM
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>
>
>
> Dear List,
>
> I need some inputs from you all regarding purging data from the
> database.
>
> This is the requirement
>
>
> We define a retention period for all the data in the system.
> When the retention period is reached,  the data should be deleted,
> but
> then
> at a later time, some user might request for this purged data. So it
> must
> be
> possible to retrieve this data.
>
> This is the strategy we have designed for this.
>
> When the retention period is reached, move the data from the main
> database
> to an offline database. Then delete the data from the main database.
>
> In the offline database, we cannot again keep it from long, so it has
> to
> moved to tapes. Now my question, how can we move this data to tapes
> and at
> the same time retrieve data from the tapes based on dates.
> i.e, the user will ask for the data on a particular date, so it must
> be
> possible to retrieve data from the tapes based on a date and load it
> to
> the
> database tables.
>
> Regards
> Prem
>
>
>
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