RE: [Q] ORACLE 9i fast_start_mttr_target and log_checkpoint_inte

[Gillian]

ok - it so happens I am in the middle of the 9i New Features class. I just clarified that with the instuctor. And he repeated that if the log_checkpotint parameters are set, as well as the MTTR, then MTTR overides whatever the log_checkpoint parameters are set to.

I did not check out the official documentation. But the class manual says,

'Internally this is translated to a setting for Log_checkpoint_interval'

The instructor's name is Steve Bertuoi. Not sure how good he knows his stuff.

I guess I could play around with their test database here in the class, and see what really happens.

Gillian

 DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Gillian - But the documentation clearly says just the opposite. It says that
if you set the LOG_CHECKPOINT_INTERVAL parameter, then that is what is used,
rather than FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET. So I don't see how you can say that
FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET overrides the LOG_CHECKPOINT_INTERVAL. Am I missing
something here?


Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Just to add:


The MTTR parameter overides the Log_checkpoint_interval and the ...timeout
parameter. Oracle sets these log_checkpoint parameters dynamically when the
MTTR parameter is set.


Gillian


DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:


Dist -
Since nobody seems to have responded,! ! I'll take a crack at it.
The Oracle9i documentation specifically says (in the Oracle9i Database
Reference) that either FAST_START_IO_TARGET or LOG_CHECKPOINT_INTERVAL will
override FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET. I would tend to believe them.
In the Oracle9i Performance Tuning Guide, Oracle contains a note that
you should disable or remove the FAST_START_IO_TARGET,
LOG_CHECKPOINT_INTERVAL, and LOG_CHECKPOINT_TIMEOUT parameters when using
FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET. Setting these parameters interferes with
FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET.
I don't see where LOG_CHECKPOINTS_TO_ALERT would cause a problem, but if
you are suspicious, you might check metalink.
As I understand it, the big advantage of FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET is its
ease and accuracy. Your management provides a goal for how long your Oracle
database can take to reco! ! ver in the situation where it crashes. You
simply
convert that number to seconds and set FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET. With the
! ! LOG_CHECKPOINT parameters, the settings are derived more indirectly.
Of course, there is no free lunch. Setting a shorter recovery time may
interfere with performance.
Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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log_checkpoint_interval parameter?





I saw a document mention if log_checkpoint_interval define on ORACLE 9i,
the fast_start_mttr_target parameter will be ignore. My question is:

1. we have following on init.ora file:

log_checkpoint_interval = 10000
log_checkpoint_timeout = 1800
log_checkpoints_to_alert = true

fast_start_mttr_target=300

Do I need remove all the log_checkpoint* on init.ora file?

2. what kind of ! ! benefit that fast_start_mttr_target better than
log_checkpoint* ?


Thanks



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