you are evil.  :)

as far as I know, mttr overrides log_checkpoint_interval if set. That's
what it says in the docs I've looked at 

I haven't had a chance to play around with it as yet though. 


--- "Fink, Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <evil smirk>
> By all means, play around in their test database. See how good he is
> when it
> goes crashy-crashy...
> <innocent smirk>
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> ok - it so happens I am in the middle of the 9i New Features class. I
> just
> clarified that with the instuctor. And he repeated that if the
> log_checkpotint parameters are set, as well as the MTTR, then MTTR
> overides
> whatever the log_checkpoint parameters are set to. 
> 
> 
> I did not check out the official documentation. But the class manual
> says, 
> 
> 
> 'Internally this is translated to a setting for
> Log_checkpoint_interval' 
> 
> 
> The instructor's name is Steve Bertuoi. Not sure how good he knows
> his
> stuff. 
> 
> 
> I guess I could play around with their test database here in the
> class, and
> see what really happens. 
> 
> 
> Gillian 
> 
> 
>  DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> 
> Gillian - But the documentation clearly says just the opposite. It
> says that
> if you set the LOG_CHECKPOINT_INTERVAL parameter, then that is what
> is used,
> rather than FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET. So I don't see how you can say
> that
> FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET overrides the LOG_CHECKPOINT_INTERVAL. Am I
> missing
> something here?
> 
> 
> Dennis Williams 
> DBA, 40%OCP 
> Lifetouch, Inc. 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> 
> 
> Just to add: 
> 
> 
> The MTTR parameter overides the Log_checkpoint_interval and the
> ...timeout
> parameter. Oracle sets these log_checkpoint parameters dynamically
> when the
> MTTR parameter is set. 
> 
> 
> Gillian 
> 
> 
> DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote: 
> 
> 
> Dist -
> Since nobody seems to have responded,! ! I'll take a crack at it. 
> The Oracle9i documentation specifically says (in the Oracle9i
> Database
> Reference) that either FAST_START_IO_TARGET or
> LOG_CHECKPOINT_INTERVAL will
> override FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET. I would tend to believe them.
> In the Oracle9i Performance Tuning Guide, Oracle contains a note that
> you should disable or remove the FAST_START_IO_TARGET,
> LOG_CHECKPOINT_INTERVAL, and LOG_CHECKPOINT_TIMEOUT parameters when
> using
> FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET. Setting these parameters interferes with
> FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET. 
> I don't see where LOG_CHECKPOINTS_TO_ALERT would cause a problem, but
> if
> you are suspicious, you might check metalink.
> As I understand it, the big advantage of FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET is
> its
> ease and accuracy. Your management provides a goal for how long your
> Oracle
> database can take to reco! ! ver in the situation where it crashes.
> You
> simply
> convert that number to seconds and set FAST_START_MTTR_TARGET. With
> the
> ! ! LOG_CHECKPOINT parameters, the settings are derived more
> indirectly.
> Of course, there is no free lunch. Setting a shorter recovery time
> may
> interfere with performance.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 40%OCP
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:04 AM
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> log_checkpoint_interval parameter?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I saw a document mention if log_checkpoint_interval define on ORACLE
> 9i,
> the fast_start_mttr_target parameter will be ignore. My question is:
> 
> 1. we have following on init.ora file:
> 
> log_checkpoint_interval = 10000
> log_checkpoint_timeout = 1800
> log_checkpoints_to_alert = true
> 
> fast_start_mttr_target=300
> 
> Do I need remove all the log_checkpoint* on init.ora file?
> 
> 2. what kind of ! ! benefit that fast_start_mttr_target better than
> log_checkpoint* ?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
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