Lisa - My bad. I've gotta learn to put more emoticons in my messages. :-)
Actually I thought you had an excellent point, sorry for taking it in a
different direction. I run and lift weights regularly (no coordination
required) and feel regular exercise should be a part of the DBA's week.
Medically proven to help you deal with stress. I've learned when I have a
day where I'm swamped with work it is very important to do my noon run
anyway because usually by the time I return I have a better solution to some
of the problems. I think it keeps your brain from aging as fast, important
if early retirement doesn't seem feasible.



Dennis Williams 
DBA, 40%OCP 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
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Hi Dennis, Point taken.  Most of us can't feed ourselves on our physical
abilities...  my point was that most of the people I have met in IT are not
into regular exercise of any type and thought I was crazy for going running
over lunch. 

Sorry I did not mean to offend anyone in any way.  I'll tape my trap shut
now. 

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Lisa - Some of us became DBAs because we realized we would never be able to 
feed our families on our physical abilities. 


Dennis Williams 
DBA, 40%OCP 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
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I used to play Ping Pong with the sysadmins and the app architect...  aahh, 
the glory dotcom days when I could bring my dog to work :) 

Most of the dba's I have met are not into physical activity and exercise. 

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"shooting hoops"?  Just out of curiosity, how many people on the list have a


group of DBAs at their company that they shoot hoops with? 
  
Some good points, some odd ones.  I'll echo Patrice's sigh (as someone who 
enjoys both parts of the job). 
  
Jay 
  
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Here's that "development DBA" alias again. 
  
sigh. 
  
Pat. 

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Thanks for this article.  I will forward to damagement. 
  
Dave 

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http://careerlink.devx.com/articles/hc0199/hc0199.asp
<http://careerlink.devx.com/articles/hc0199/hc0199.asp>  
< http://careerlink.devx.com/articles/hc0199/hc0199.asp
<http://careerlink.devx.com/articles/hc0199/hc0199.asp> >  
< http://careerlink.devx.com/articles/hc0199/hc0199.asp
<http://careerlink.devx.com/articles/hc0199/hc0199.asp>  
< http://careerlink.devx.com/articles/hc0199/hc0199.asp
<http://careerlink.devx.com/articles/hc0199/hc0199.asp> > >  

Interesting article I stumbled across.   Best quote:  "Stay Out of your 
DBA's Face"!    WELL PUT! 

Lisa Koivu 
Oracle Database Administrator 
Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 
5259 Coconut Creek Parkway 
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063 


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