Simple:
RAC = $60k per CPU.
Standby = $40k per CPU.
Jared
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Dick
How is the standby database cheaper? I understood from previous list
discussions that you had to license the standby server as well.
As the hardware and O/S become commodities, I think Oracle would like
to
avoid becoming a commodity. Commodity prices are low, as any farmer can
tell
you.
But the further issue is "how do Oracle DBAs avoid becoming a
commodity?". Maybe the next question coming is "why should we pay more for
a
DBA when we're getting the computer and software so cheap?"
Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Jared,
I don't know about the rest of the list members, but the company I
work
for
would like to have the technology but without the additional license
expense.
Therefore were going to do the standby database thing instead of RAC. Now
if
your into using Linux with low end PC's then maybe you can justify it. I
don't
know, it gives me the whillies when the software costs more than the
hardware
and OS combined.
Dick Goulet
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Author: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2/11/2003 8:29 AM
This is all cool technology, and fun stuff to play with.
It all begs the questions,
"How many of us work for a business that actually need this?"
"Are they willing to pay $400/user $20k/CPU above the cost
of Oracle 9i EE to use it?"
"Are they willing to pay the extra overhead required to maintain it?"
I'm not sure the ROI is there for many of us. Though downtime
at our business is somewhat expensive, I think that a failover
system or even standby database will provide adequate coverage
for us, which is indeed a hot topic here right now, after our Dell
SAN put us out of business for 36 hours.
RAC wouldn't have helped much there. Niether would a cluster
for that matter. Standby DB would have been perfect.
This whole push of RAC by Oracle reminds me very much of the
mlife phone campaign by ATT. Do you really need to take pictures
with your phone? And what is the point of sending text messages
to someone elses phone when you could just call them?
ATT needs you to buy this stuff, because they have it for sale.
I see RAC in a similar light. Do you need RAC? Oracle needs
you to 'need' it, because they need some reason for you to
spend more money on their product.
Jared
On Saturday 08 February 2003 21:23, Richard Ji wrote:
> To those who are interested in running RAC on Linux.
> I know we have been talking about RAC on linux lately. This is great
news
> Redhat has made a special developer's edition for their Advanced Server
> which
> only costs $60! So we don't have to shell out $699 for a copy of RHAS
2.1
> to play with RAC.
>
> http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/developer/
>
> Have fun.
>
> Richard Ji
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