RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

[Pete Sharman]

Title: Message

April

 

I'm afraid I can't answer what Oracle DOES do for IOUG, being a lowly scumbag consultant, but one thing I can suggest to you and any other user group co-ordinator types is to send me (well in advance) notification of your events.  I run a DBA mailing list that gets mail sent out monthly if I have the time, and you may hit some of your constituents that way.  It's a worldwide distribution list, so I'm not sure whether anyone from your area is on it, but it certainly won't harm anyone to include that information as needed.

 

I missed the beginning of this thread since I only subscribed to oracle-l last night, so I can't comment on the rest of it.

Pete

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of April Wells
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:24 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

It would be great to find out what Oracle DOES do for IOUG... and other OUGs for that matter.  I can't get them to even tell people about TSOUG... let alone actually GIVE us anything (meeting room, or anything else).  Most of the time I can't get OUR sales rep to get back to me to tell me if he is still telling his contacts in the area that we even exist!

 

April Wells
Oracle DBA
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds -- Albert Einstein

-----Original Message-----
From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:00 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Teradata baned from IOUG???

Well said. It becomes a problem when TUSC aka IOUG starts censoring papers and vendors for OW and IOUG-A on the grounds that it doesn't conform with the slick TUSC messages (right or wrong as they were).

Just out of curiosity: What is it that Oracle provides that IOUG can't live without? In Denmark (which is about the size of Ada, Oklahoma :) ) we are grateful for being able to borrow a meeting room at the Oracle building for our events, but we could just as easily get a room somewhere else. That's about it. So we get by fine.

Mogens

Peter Barnett wrote:

It seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned
subsidiary of TUSC.  TUSC in turn has an incestuous
relationship with Oracle.  All very cozy.

No real complaint about the arrangements.  Someone has
to step up to the plate if IOUG is going to continue
to be a viable organization and in this economic
climate few can afford to do it.

Should IOUG be able to survive without Oracle? 
Probably.  Will it be able to survive without Oracle? 
I doubt it.  


--- Jonathan Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
  

It should be possible for the IOUG to live without
Oracle's support.  Obviously it would be better
for all concerned if there is some measure of
co-operation, and there's clearly no need for
bloody-minded conflict.  But if the IOUG just
keeps doing things that the users want, then
the users should be able to support it in the
complete absence of any input from Oracle.


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MacGregor, Ian A. wrote:
    

The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, but
      

Oracle can survive
without the IOUG.
    
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