Pete, I used to get your newsletter, and even resubscribed after your big move, but then lost track of it.
Feel free to publish subscription info here on Oracle-L. Welcome aboard! Jared On Tuesday 18 February 2003 09:19, Pete Sharman wrote: > April > > I'm afraid I can't answer what Oracle DOES do for IOUG, being a lowly > scumbag consultant, but one thing I can suggest to you and any other > user group co-ordinator types is to send me (well in advance) > notification of your events. I run a DBA mailing list that gets mail > sent out monthly if I have the time, and you may hit some of your > constituents that way. It's a worldwide distribution list, so I'm not > sure whether anyone from your area is on it, but it certainly won't harm > anyone to include that information as needed. > > I missed the beginning of this thread since I only subscribed to > oracle-l last night, so I can't comment on the rest of it. > > Pete > > "Controlling developers is like herding cats." > > Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook > > "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" > > Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA > > > > -----Original Message----- > Wells > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:24 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > It would be great to find out what Oracle DOES do for IOUG... and other > OUGs for that matter. I can't get them to even tell people about > TSOUG... let alone actually GIVE us anything (meeting room, or anything > else). Most of the time I can't get OUR sales rep to get back to me to > tell me if he is still telling his contacts in the area that we even > exist! > > > April Wells > Oracle DBA > Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre > minds -- Albert Einstein > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:00 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Well said. It becomes a problem when TUSC aka IOUG starts censoring > papers and vendors for OW and IOUG-A on the grounds that it doesn't > conform with the slick TUSC messages (right or wrong as they were). > > Just out of curiosity: What is it that Oracle provides that IOUG can't > live without? In Denmark (which is about the size of Ada, Oklahoma :) ) > we are grateful for being able to borrow a meeting room at the Oracle > building for our events, but we could just as easily get a room > somewhere else. That's about it. So we get by fine. > > Mogens > > Peter Barnett wrote: > > > It seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned > > subsidiary of TUSC. TUSC in turn has an incestuous > > relationship with Oracle. All very cozy. > > > > No real complaint about the arrangements. Someone has > > to step up to the plate if IOUG is going to continue > > to be a viable organization and in this economic > > climate few can afford to do it. > > > > Should IOUG be able to survive without Oracle? > > Probably. Will it be able to survive without Oracle? > > I doubt it. > > > > > > --- Jonathan Lewis <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > It should be possible for the IOUG to live without > > Oracle's support. Obviously it would be better > > for all concerned if there is some measure of > > co-operation, and there's clearly no need for > > bloody-minded conflict. But if the IOUG just > > keeps doing things that the users want, then > > the users should be able to support it in the > > complete absence of any input from Oracle. > > > > > > Regards > > > > Jonathan Lewis > > http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk > > > > Coming soon one-day tutorials: > > Cost Based Optimisation > > Trouble-shooting and Tuning > > Indexing Strategies > > (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html ) > > > > ____UK_______March 19th > > ____USA_(FL)_May 2nd > > > > > > Next Seminar dates: > > (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html ) > > > > ____USA_(CA, TX)_August > > > > > > The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ > > http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html > > > > > > MacGregor, Ian A. wrote: > > > > The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, but > > > > Oracle can survive > > without the IOUG. ---------------------------------------- Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: ---------------------------------------- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
