Alright, Mogens. I'll stand up
here.
I'm
one of the two DBA focus area managers (FAMs) for IOUG 2003. My fellow
FAM
and abstract reviewers (3 of them) and I are the ones who
choose
this presentation (along with all the others in the DBA
track).
None
of us are employed by TUSC or by Oracle.
You
statement: "how certain presentations with the word "ratio" and
something negative in their heading don't make it
through the
selection process, while presentations with the word
"ratio"
and
something positive make it through." is technically
accurate.
The
only other presentation with the word "ratio" in the title was
rejected. However, there are a number
of others presentations
that
fall within this specific area of tuning by a number of
people,
including Roger Schrag, Cary
Millsap, Jonathan Lewis,
I
cannot and will not go into the particulars of why a
specific presentation was chosen, but I can tell you
that
no weight was given to the employer of the speaker.
----
Matt Adams - GE
Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We have enough youth.
How about a
fountain of intelligence?
-----Original
Message-----
From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:34 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Teradata baned from IOUG???
Then why this feeling (in other
countries, too) that IOUG should be called TOUG instead? Funny how certain
presentations with the word "ratio" and something negative in their heading
don't make it through the selection process, while presentations with the word
"ratio" and something positive make it through. Funny how an abstract like the
following nonsense makes it through the process. Just downright funny, strange
and not very convincing... who in their right mind said this was a professional
presentation that would be of interest to any serious optimiser guy or girl?
Somebody must have said Aye to this. Are you ready? Here we go:From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:34 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Teradata baned from IOUG???
"Lately, there has been a big push to ignore your hit ratio with claims
that it is meaningless. This shallow minded view (usually by people who
sell a tuning tool) ignores why people look at hit ratios and what they
are looking for. This quick tip talk will show you what to look for and
why. You will definitely know when, where & why to look at your hit
ratio in the future.
Show you why your hit ratio matters. How to analyze the hit ratio.
Fallacies by those who want to sell you products and tools instead. "
Henry Poras wrote:
Neither is David Teplow (former president of NOUG)-----Original Message-----I know Stan Yellott is not a TUSC employee. He is the President of RMOUG and a great guy who has worked behind the scenes at many IOUG conferences. He is a tremendous calming influence (as many of us recall from San Diego).
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel W. Fink
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:59 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Teradata baned from IOUG???
I don't think Ian, Mark, Bill, Stephen or Steve are TUSC Employees, unless they have changed jobs recently.
Henry Poras wrote:
Anyone know if any of the 10 people running for the Board of Directors for IOUG is a TUSC employee? Noone claims it in their statements. Henry -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L me too... Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:11 AMevidently i'm not the only one who thinks that, interesting. joeIt seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned subsidiary of TUSC. TUSC in turn has an incestuous relationship with Oracle. All very cozy. No real complaint about the arrangements. Someone has to step up to the plate if IOUG is going to continue to be a viable organization and in this economic climate few can afford to do it. Should IOUG be able to survive without Oracle? Probably. Will it be able to survive without Oracle? I doubt it. --- Jonathan Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:It should be possible for the IOUG to live without Oracle's support. Obviously it would be better for all concerned if there is some measure of co-operation, and there's clearly no need for bloody-minded conflict. But if the IOUG just keeps doing things that the users want, then the users should be able to support it in the complete absence of any input from Oracle. Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk Coming soon one-day tutorials: Cost Based Optimisation Trouble-shooting and Tuning Indexing Strategies (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html ) ____UK_______March 19th ____USA_(FL)_May 2nd Next Seminar dates: (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html ) ____USA_(CA, TX)_August The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html MacGregor, Ian A. wrote:The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, butOracle can survive without the IOUG.-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jonathan Lewis INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services---------------------------------------------------------------------To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).===== Pete Barnett Lead Database Administrator The Regence Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Peter Barnett INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joseph S Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Igor Neyman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
