Thanks Dan, I've found myself defending that position from time to time. Jared
"Daniel W. Fink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/02/2003 11:20 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate Multiplexing redo logs has nothing to do with the archive mode. Logs are multiplexed so that an error writing to one of the members in a group does not cause the instance to terminate. Myth - If you use disk mirroring, you don't need to multiplex your redo logs. Reality - Mirroring only protects from hardware failure. It will not protect you from accidental deletion of the log (been there, had to fix it!). -- Daniel W. Fink http://www.optimaldba.com IOUG-A Live! April 27 - May 1, 2003 Orlando, FL Sunday, April 27 8:30am - 4:30pm - Problem Solving with Oracle 9i SQL Thursday, May 1 1:00pm - 2:00pm - Automatic Undo Internals GovindanK wrote: Shutdown abort is pretty drastic, are you sure shutdown immediate didn't work? Well said. This topic has been circulating in many DBA forums for a long time. Shutdown immediate does rollback and will take time if no.of users is high. On the otherside, shutdown abort simply takes the db down and does not bother about anything else. As per manual, if you do a shutdown abort then you WILL need the online redo logs for recovery just in case. Think twice if your db is in NOARCHIVELOG mode. If your db is in ARCHIVE mode make sure the logs are multiplexed. Though Oracle's recovery seems to be sturdy, double check your backup & recovery strategies. Also, which option to use is influenced by how much downtime/shutdown time you can afford. HTH GovindanK -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).