Ken - Since in your other posting you mentioned you are in the Minneapolis area, I'll keep my eye open if something is mentioned. I strongly feel we all need to help each other, you never can tell when it'll be your turn.
Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis: I am still in the process of changing jobs since I got laid off last year. The company I worked for went belly up. Ken ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:24 AM > Ken - Since you've recently changed jobs, your upbeat attitude is > encouraging. I think you've made a good point that jobs aren't always > advertised. Another point is that when there are more jobs than available > candidates, companies have to advertise strongly to fill their positions. > When there are more candidates than available jobs, companies often find > that people are seeking out the opening before they post it. > > Patrice - Look at what happened over the previous years. In 1999 > corporations spent wildly on I.T. (naturally when the catastrophe didn't > occur because of the tireless efforts of I.T. people, the senior executives > felt the money was wasted). Then when spending would have naturally > declined, the dot-com madness stuck and things went wild. I think we are > just about to come out of the natural down cycle due to the extravagant > dot-com spending. But now I keep seeing articles about how much development > work is being sent overseas. Has anyone seen that affect Oracle DBA work > yet? > > Dennis Williams > DBA > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:14 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I don't think it has as much to do with no available positions (although > that is part of the answer) as most medium to large companies don't use > newspaper ads anymore. They are using the internet (especially for > technical jobs) and are signed up with Monster, BrassRing, etc. to do their > recruiting for them from their own company web sites. I've seen this > definite shift here in the Minneapolis / St. Paul, MN area over the past > couple of years. Most of these companies also provide e-mail service that > sends you an email when a job is posted that meets your specs. So, why > waste your time on newspaper ads that only appear every Sunday? > > My $0.02 worth, > > Ken Janusz, CPIM > > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:34 AM > > > > I've been keeping an eye on the Boston Globe's Oracle DBA job postings, > two > > years ago it wasn't uncommon to see eight or more per week, now I tend to > > see one or two, or none. > > > > For a while they also announced big IT job fairs, I don't know if they > still > > do that or how successful they now are. > > > > The market has really shrunk in two years! > > > > There can't be a huge glut of DBAs out there looking for work... It must > be > > a reduction in demand because companies are not making big infrastructure > > changes anymore. > > > > Patrice. > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Boivin, Patrice J > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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