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> But now I keep seeing 
> articles about how much development work is being sent 
> overseas. Has anyone seen that affect Oracle DBA work yet? 

Huge discussions going on here at work about that very subject.  So far, no one has 
come up with a reasonable argument for keeping the jobs in-house.  At the gut level it 
'feels' like we should keep the jobs in-house and that would be an overall benefit to 
the economy, too.  However, the financial argument of should I pay 75K - 120K a year 
for US based DBAs or pay 45K - 80K for offshore talent is hard to beat.  The money 
ranges I gave are contract employee/job shop type of quotes, IOW, a 75K US position 
would be for a junior DBA that is actually getting 35K-40K and so on up the skill 
range.

v/r

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> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
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> 
> I don't think it has as much to do with no available 
> positions (although that is part of the answer) as most 
> medium to large companies don't use newspaper ads anymore.  
> They are using the internet (especially for technical jobs) 
> and are signed up with Monster, BrassRing, etc. to do their 
> recruiting for them from their own company web sites.  I've 
> seen this definite shift here in the Minneapolis / St. Paul, 
> MN area over the past couple of years.  Most of these 
> companies also provide e-mail service that sends you an email 
> when a job is posted that meets your specs.  So, why waste 
> your time on newspaper ads that only appear every Sunday?
> 
> My $0.02 worth,
> 
> Ken Janusz, CPIM
> 
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> > I've been keeping an eye on the Boston Globe's Oracle DBA job 
> > postings,
> two
> > years ago it wasn't uncommon to see eight or more per week, 
> now I tend 
> > to see one or two, or none.
> >
> > For a while they also announced big IT job fairs, I don't 
> know if they
> still
> > do that or how successful they now are.
> >
> > The market has really shrunk in two years!
> >
> > There can't be a huge glut of DBAs out there looking for 
> work...  It 
> > must
> be
> > a reduction in demand because companies are not making big 
> > infrastructure changes anymore.
> >
> > Patrice.
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