<inline> > But now I keep seeing > articles about how much development work is being sent > overseas. Has anyone seen that affect Oracle DBA work yet?
Huge discussions going on here at work about that very subject. So far, no one has come up with a reasonable argument for keeping the jobs in-house. At the gut level it 'feels' like we should keep the jobs in-house and that would be an overall benefit to the economy, too. However, the financial argument of should I pay 75K - 120K a year for US based DBAs or pay 45K - 80K for offshore talent is hard to beat. The money ranges I gave are contract employee/job shop type of quotes, IOW, a 75K US position would be for a junior DBA that is actually getting 35K-40K and so on up the skill range. v/r Stephen S. Wolfe, GS-11, DAFC Data Services Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] (813) 827-9974 DSN 651-9974 > > Dennis Williams > DBA > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:14 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I don't think it has as much to do with no available > positions (although that is part of the answer) as most > medium to large companies don't use newspaper ads anymore. > They are using the internet (especially for technical jobs) > and are signed up with Monster, BrassRing, etc. to do their > recruiting for them from their own company web sites. I've > seen this definite shift here in the Minneapolis / St. Paul, > MN area over the past couple of years. Most of these > companies also provide e-mail service that sends you an email > when a job is posted that meets your specs. So, why waste > your time on newspaper ads that only appear every Sunday? > > My $0.02 worth, > > Ken Janusz, CPIM > > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:34 AM > > > > I've been keeping an eye on the Boston Globe's Oracle DBA job > > postings, > two > > years ago it wasn't uncommon to see eight or more per week, > now I tend > > to see one or two, or none. > > > > For a while they also announced big IT job fairs, I don't > know if they > still > > do that or how successful they now are. > > > > The market has really shrunk in two years! > > > > There can't be a huge glut of DBAs out there looking for > work... It > > must > be > > a reduction in demand because companies are not making big > > infrastructure changes anymore. > > > > Patrice. > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Boivin, Patrice J > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web > hosting services > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the > > name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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