Then you have a political problem, not a technical one. This is plenty common. In my opinion, you'll aggravate yourself to death before you'll successfully solve a political problem with a technical solution.
I have total faith in the technical solution that Dan suggested, but you won't be able to implement it until you fix the real problem. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic 101 in Sydney - Hotsos Symposium 2004, March 7-10 Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... -----Original Message----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L all i usually get is 'the application is slow' i cant get more out of them than that. its in acceptance testing so i often get that from the customer. they are offsite and i dont have direct contact with them. so i cant run traces on individual sessions. Further when the database runs slow they stop what they are doing. So it makes it harder. Im not that familiar with the v$wait and v$statistics views. I was hoping there are some queries so i can gather my own stats. > > From: Daniel Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/08/18 Mon PM 03:44:25 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: tuning question when you have a 3GL application > > 10046, and only 10046. There are many ways to set this event, even in another session. It is the method for identifying the exact > problem. Statspack and queries on v$ views have their own shortcomings that make them inefficient for use in identifying specific > problems. > > Get the SE team to identify what is slow, when it is slow. If they can repeat it, run a test with 10046 enabled. That WILL identify > the cause of the response time degradation. > > Daniel Fink > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > We have two teams. Database team and a Software engineering team. The software engineering team wrote an application in .net. > > > > We periodically get 'the application is slow' from them. I have not gotten the ok to run statspack in production. > > > > Are there any canned scripts I can run to monitor the v$views or latch contention etc... It may not be the database, but I need some metrics. > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Cary Millsap INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).