its the way the taem is organized. all communication goes through the product managers 
to the client. No direct access for the technical people.

i dont make the rules. I just have to live with them. Ive been onsite with clients 
before. its easier.

So Im looking for things to make my life easier... :( 
luckily yesterday was a problem with the COM objects and had nothing to do with the 
database. 
> 
> From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/08/19 Tue AM 10:34:24 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: tuning question when you have a 3GL application
> 
> Your customer tells you that the database is slow, but won't 
> allow you the opportunity to correct it if that is the case?
> 
> As Cary says, your problem is not a technical one.  It sounds as
> if they don't *want* you to have the opportunity to prove that
> the database is not the problem.
> 
> Jared
> 
> On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 12:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > We have two teams. Database team and a Software engineering team. The software 
> > engineering team wrote an application in .net.
> > 
> > We periodically get 'the application is slow' from them. I have not gotten the ok 
> > to run statspack in production. 
> > 
> > Are there any canned scripts I can run to monitor the v$views or latch contention 
> > etc... It may not be the database, but I need some metrics. 
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