what do they have you do? you set up a database where everything that can go wrong does go wrong with no access to documentation right? > > From: "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/09/08 Mon AM 09:44:27 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Oracle Masters exam > > Thanks Patrice. > Yes, the exam was challenging, I've never typed and thought that fast than 5 > min before end of second testing day ;) > > Tanel. > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 3:29 PM > > > > Congratulations Taner, Scott Gossett told me the exam is very challenging. > > > > (And if Scott Gossett thinks the exam is challenging...) > > > > Patrice. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 8:24 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Hi! > > > > I think the "new" certification is Oracle Certified Master, but the old > one > > was just Oracle Master title. I personally spent over $6000 on OCM exam > > which I took last year (the first public exam). I had to fly to Chicago > from > > other side of the world, because there were no exams available elsewhere. > I > > believe Oracle is still having problems with setting up additional test > > environments in other locations... > > If you ask, was it worth to spend the money - my personal opinion is: yes > it > > was. > > > > Tanel. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:59 PM > > > > > > > Just to clarify, the "old" Oracle Masters was only an indication that > > > you had attended a series of relevant training courses. There was no > > > test, no measure of how well you could perform the role of a DBA. The > > > "new" Oracle Masters definitely addresses that issue. > > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > "Controlling developers is like herding cats." > > > Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook > > > > > > "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" > > > Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Ron Rogers > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:39 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > I have a certificate suitable for framing that states that I am a > > > "Database Administrator Oracle 7 Oracle Master". Does this new Oracle > > > Master negate my current "Oracle Master" certification? Is there and > > > upgrade path available? Does it really matter? Every thing that I have > > > accomplished I have done for myself. I use the tests as a yard stick > > > against what I feel I want to accomplish. Does it matter that I have > > > one, or two, or three, or four "suitable for framing" papers on the > > > wall? With only a few years to go before I retire for the second time, I > > > think that I will concentrate my efforts on my grand kids rather that > > > getting paper for my walls. > > > Ron m���m > > > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/05/03 08:20AM >>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > It's too bad. It seems like it would be fun. > > > > > > What for? Make the employer shell out another BIG bunch of notes? To > > > get a piece of paper that says on that date and with that hardware > > > one could perform a backup and a restore? > > > > > > What does that say about the ability to lead a group of developers, or > > > design the strategy for database access or solve a really nasty > > > performance problem without forcing re-development or re-tooling? Or any > > > of a million other tasks truly knowledgeable people get asked to > > > perform? > > > > > > No wonder TK doesn't want to talk about it: it's laughable, > > > and he prides himself in being a serious expert. > > > > > > The single fact the masters was created is the perfect admission at long > > > last the OCP was nothing but a sham. Everyone knows it, some just > > > insist on continuing the good old PC stuff (go with the flow, > > > > > > let it ride, etc). It is the simple truth: its value as a > > > "certification" was and always will be nill. > > > > > > That the masters is being sold as the new "be-all-end-all" is even more > > > > > > demeaning. > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:20 AM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > So, it's nothing like OCP where you get the certification when you > > > spew out > > > > certain amount of the green stuff? I wonder how long will it take > > > before > > > > seeing > > > > oracle masters who don't know how to take a hot backup. > > > > > > They'll be able to take a hot backup, rest assured. > > > With milk and two sugars, please. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Nuno Souto > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: Nuno Souto > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the > > > message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of > > > mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP > > > command for other information (like subscribing). > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: Ron Rogers > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the > > > message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of > > > mailing list you want to be removed from). 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