Congratulations Taner, Scott Gossett told me the exam is very challenging. (And if Scott Gossett thinks the exam is challenging...)
Patrice. -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 8:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi! I think the "new" certification is Oracle Certified Master, but the old one was just Oracle Master title. I personally spent over $6000 on OCM exam which I took last year (the first public exam). I had to fly to Chicago from other side of the world, because there were no exams available elsewhere. I believe Oracle is still having problems with setting up additional test environments in other locations... If you ask, was it worth to spend the money - my personal opinion is: yes it was. Tanel. ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:59 PM > Just to clarify, the "old" Oracle Masters was only an indication that > you had attended a series of relevant training courses. There was no > test, no measure of how well you could perform the role of a DBA. The > "new" Oracle Masters definitely addresses that issue. > > > Pete > > "Controlling developers is like herding cats." > Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook > > "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" > Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA. > > > > -----Original Message----- > Ron Rogers > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:39 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I have a certificate suitable for framing that states that I am a > "Database Administrator Oracle 7 Oracle Master". Does this new Oracle > Master negate my current "Oracle Master" certification? Is there and > upgrade path available? Does it really matter? Every thing that I have > accomplished I have done for myself. I use the tests as a yard stick > against what I feel I want to accomplish. Does it matter that I have > one, or two, or three, or four "suitable for framing" papers on the > wall? With only a few years to go before I retire for the second time, I > think that I will concentrate my efforts on my grand kids rather that > getting paper for my walls. > Ron m���m > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/05/03 08:20AM >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > It's too bad. It seems like it would be fun. > > What for? Make the employer shell out another BIG bunch of notes? To > get a piece of paper that says on that date and with that hardware > one could perform a backup and a restore? > > What does that say about the ability to lead a group of developers, or > design the strategy for database access or solve a really nasty > performance problem without forcing re-development or re-tooling? Or any > of a million other tasks truly knowledgeable people get asked to > perform? > > No wonder TK doesn't want to talk about it: it's laughable, > and he prides himself in being a serious expert. > > The single fact the masters was created is the perfect admission at long > last the OCP was nothing but a sham. Everyone knows it, some just > insist on continuing the good old PC stuff (go with the flow, > > let it ride, etc). It is the simple truth: its value as a > "certification" was and always will be nill. > > That the masters is being sold as the new "be-all-end-all" is even more > > demeaning. > > > > Chris > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:20 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > So, it's nothing like OCP where you get the certification when you > spew out > > certain amount of the green stuff? I wonder how long will it take > before > > seeing > > oracle masters who don't know how to take a hot backup. > > They'll be able to take a hot backup, rest assured. > With milk and two sugars, please. > > Cheers > Nuno Souto > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Nuno Souto > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the > message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of > mailing list you want to be removed from). 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