Mark, I see what you are talking about, but my developers don't have access to data files. Heck, I don't have access to data files in production. The production DBA controls the account.
I totally agree that a tool such as this in the wrong hands can be very dangerous, same thing applies for other tools, ethereal, kismet etc. I do believe the benefit of such a tool available out weights the risk of it. I'd like to hear other list members opnion on it. Yours turely Richard Ji -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L One problem I see with giving this away "free" is that you will be supplying a tool that allows you to extract data from the database, bypassing all inbuilt security. A BIG "no no". I suppose that also applies to this kind of tool even under a paid license structure. How many of you would shout at Cool-Tools for "giving away" a tool such as this, that your developers can use to "hack" your data files? ;) Nice idea in concept - huge liability it reality. -----Original Message----- Rachel Carmichael Sent: 18 September 2003 17:15 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 1) it's Field Support not Tech Support that has it 2) Oracle does not sell nor does it release the code for DUL. A field support technician comes to your site, installs it, runs it and removes it. You pay a fee for this. when I used it (in '98), the fee was $5k per every 8 hour period, with a minimum of $10K as the starting fee. --- Juan Miranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do it but there say don4t have DUL > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de > Tanel Poder > Enviado el: jueves, 18 de septiembre de 2003 15:50 > Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Asunto: Re: Anyone have a copy of DUL ?? > > > Call Oracle Support ;) > > Tanel. > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:39 PM > > > > > > > > There are DUL?s manual. > > http://www.fors.com/velpuri2/dul_ucg8.html > > > > May be interesting for someone. > > > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre > de > > Pete Finnigan > > Enviado el: jueves, 18 de septiembre de 2003 13:55 > > Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Asunto: Re: How to extract data directly from a datafile ? > > > > > > Hi Tanel, > > > > A free DUL in C would be very nice to have and to study the source > code > > of. maybe you should also contact Kurt van Meerbeek of jDUL project > on > > sourceforge, maybe you have some ideas or info he doesn't have that > > could help his efforts or of course Richard's efforts. > > > > kind regards > > > > Pete > > -- > > Pete Finnigan > > email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Web site: http://www.petefinnigan.com - Oracle security audit > specialists > > Book:Oracle security step-by-step Guide - see http://store.sans.org > for > > details. > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Pete Finnigan > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting > services > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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