Mark,

I see what you are talking about, but my developers don't have access
to data files.  Heck, I don't have access to data files in production.
The production DBA controls the account.

I totally agree that a tool such as this in the wrong hands can be
very dangerous, same thing applies for other tools, ethereal, kismet etc.

I do believe the benefit of such a tool available out weights the risk of it.
I'd like to hear other list members opnion on it.

Yours turely

Richard Ji

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One problem I see with giving this away "free" is that you will be supplying
a tool that allows you to extract data from the database, bypassing all
inbuilt security. A BIG "no no". I suppose that also applies to this kind of
tool even under a paid license structure.

How many of you would shout at Cool-Tools for "giving away" a tool such as
this, that your developers can use to "hack" your data files? ;)

Nice idea in concept - huge liability it reality.


-----Original Message-----
Rachel Carmichael
Sent: 18 September 2003 17:15
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1) it's Field Support not Tech Support that has it
2) Oracle does not sell nor does it release the code for DUL. A field
support technician comes to your site, installs it, runs it and removes
it. You pay a fee for this. when I used it (in '98), the fee was $5k
per every 8 hour period, with a minimum of $10K as the starting fee.


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> I do it but there say don4t have DUL
>
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> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de
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> Enviado el: jueves, 18 de septiembre de 2003 15:50
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> Asunto: Re: Anyone have a copy of DUL ??
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> Call Oracle Support ;)
>
> Tanel.
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> >
> >
> > There are DUL?s manual.
> > http://www.fors.com/velpuri2/dul_ucg8.html
> >
> > May be interesting for someone.
> >
> >
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre
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> > Pete Finnigan
> > Enviado el: jueves, 18 de septiembre de 2003 13:55
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> > Asunto: Re: How to extract data directly from a datafile ?
> >
> >
> > Hi Tanel,
> >
> > A free DUL in C would be very nice to have and to study the source
> code
> > of. maybe you should also contact Kurt van Meerbeek of jDUL project
> on
> > sourceforge, maybe you have some ideas or info he doesn't have that
> > could help his efforts or of course Richard's efforts.
> >
> > kind regards
> >
> > Pete
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