Peter, I used DUL (one of my last "40 hour days") under extreme urgency. We didn't have to fax anything, but then, our senior Vice President did call Ray Lane's secretary to get Field Support to pull someone in off vacation to come to our site, so I guess that's pretty good verification.
The product does what it says it will do... and I hope I NEVER have to use it again. Rachel --- Peter Gram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Pete > > I have used Dul many times at customer sites when I was employed by > Oracle Denmark. > > Every time the customer management had to verify by phone and fax > that > they understood > the full impact of using Dul. > > Oracle have disclaimer that explains the problems with missing > transaction consistency of the > data saved by Dul and the security issues. > > The customer has to sign and fax the disclaimer back to Oracle before > we > came on site .-) > > After I left Oracle several people ask me if would write a Dul and I > declined. > > I'm of the opinion that Dul should stay behind the Oracle firewall. > > /peter > > > Pete Finnigan wrote: > > >Hi Mark > > > >I agree with you Mark, even if its supplied by Oracle technicians - > it > >is as you say possible to by-pass security completely. Does anyone > in > >Oracle check that the field support personnel dispatched to a site ( > in > >urgency ) are dumping data for the owner of it? - > > > >I covered the issue of DUL with regards to security is the SANS > Oracle > >security step-by-step book - action 6.5.1 > > > >kind regards > > > >Pete > > > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Leith > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > > > > >>One problem I see with giving this away "free" is that you will be > supplying > >>a tool that allows you to extract data from the database, bypassing > all > >>inbuilt security. A BIG "no no". I suppose that also applies to > this kind of > >>tool even under a paid license structure. > >> > >> > >> > > -- > Peter Gram, Miracle A/S > Phone : +45 2527 7107, Fax : +45 4466 8856, Home +45 3874 5696 > mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://MiracleAS.dk > > Upcoming events: > DatabaseForum 2003, Lalandia 2-4 October > Visit http://miracleas.dk/events/DBF2003/invitation.html > > Miracle Master Class with Tom Kyte, 12-14 January 2004 > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-pkcs7-signature name=smime.p7s __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
