Step 1: have your head examined!
Step 2: All components of Oracle Applications comes on the 22+ CD pack, ie, you don't
need to order
the DB or iAS.
Have fun!
Ron Thomas
Hypercom, Inc
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Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. -- Kernighan
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22 CDs huh? Any one know where to get free trial software for Apps?
Anyone want to burn me 22 CDs? Just kidding...
I haven't work with Financials since 10.7 and feel like I am rapidly losing my
financials skills. I
want to set this up at home. I figure I would use it for my personal accounting (I
know overkill)
but I need SOME reason to use it.
It looks like I can order this from the Oracle store for a nominal price, however, I
need some help
in figuring out what to order.
Based on the URL:
http://oraclestore.oracle.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=11536 , Here
are the things I think I require:
Oracle 9i Database (9.2.0.1) CD Pack for MS Windows
$0 (downloaded this software previously)
$55.93 Oracle Applications 11i Release 9 CD Pack for MS Windows
$13.93 Oracle Applications 11i Release 9 Update CD Pack for MS windows
And probably one of (but which one?):
- Oracle 9i Application Server, Release 2 (9.2.0.1) CD Pack for MS Windows
- Oracle 9i Application Server, Version 1.0.2.2.2a CD Pack for MS Windows
Does this look right or are there other components I will also need?
Thanks in Advance
- Babette
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Sent: 2003-09-20 3:45 PM
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Tanel,
You're absolutely right. I had really meant to say that the 8.0.6 software
stack finally goes away, but stated it poorly. Unfortunately, I was wrong
even there, as the 8.0.6 software stack remains, as you've indicated. All I
can say is that I was in the db-tier environment when looking for it, not in
the app-tier as I should have been. Sloppy work and sloppy assumptions.
Unskyld!
But the Jinitiator is still nowhere to be seen, at least the stuff I've
played with (i.e. Conc Mgr forms, SYSADMIN stuff, etc). I've not seen any
documentation to confirm this though...
11.5.9 installs the db-tier in v9.2.0.3, but (not unexpectedly) the database
that is scraped out of the 22-CD set of installation CDs is not set up very
intelligently. For example, the locally-managed tablespaces have all been
migrated from dictionary-managed instead of created as UNIFORM or
AUTOALLOCATE, which leaves some interesting anomalies for the conscientious
DBA, such as NEXT_EXTENT settings which are larger than any of the
non-autoextend-enabled datafiles. "Yay!" for using locally-managed, "boo!"
for migrating instead of doing it right. Kind of like asking kids to pick
up their clothes -- they just move them from the floor to and place them
under the bed, making the floor clean but not improving the process of
getting clean clothes back into the closet and drawers. Anyway, this is the
case in some 70-odd tablespaces. I'm sure this situation has always been
present, but it makes one wonder whether Oracle ever consulted a practicing
Apps DBA when burning its pre-installed databases onto the CDs. Still, 2
steps forward, 1 step back...
Maybe they did ask someone and regretted it, due to negative feedback?
After all, one time-honored way of getting rid of bad news is to kill the
messenger. How hard would it be to fix the one template database correctly,
before scattering the thing onto a thousand unsuspecting servers? Maybe
that is being saved for 11.5.10?
Anyway, thanks for the correction! You are indeed great to have on the
list! I hope to see you in Toronto at IOUG, perhaps?
-Tim
on 9/20/03 2:59 AM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Tim,
>
> The Forms&Reports are still there, the main part of Apps will continue using
> them long time. I've not touched 11.5.9 yet, maybe they've modified new
> installation config that way it doesn't require jinitiator on Windows
> platforms anymore, but the java forms you see, are still generated using
> Oracle Forms (with the exception of SSF, self service framework, which is
> HTML&jsp) and reports are still run using Oracle Reports.
>
> Tanel.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
>> Plus, no more jinitiator in 11.5.9! Finally, the removal of
>> SQL*Form/Oracle*Forms/Forms is complete...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> on 9/19/03 4:24 PM, Ron Thomas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>
>>> You may want to skip 11.5.8 and go to 11.5.9. There are major patches
> (the
>>> family pack variety) to
>>> apply subsequent to 11.5.8
>>>
>>> Ron Thomas
>>> Hypercom, Inc
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. -- Kernighan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> 09/19/2003 04:54
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>>> Please respond to
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> We are 'in the process' of moving from 11.5.7/8.1.7.4 to
> 11.5.8/9.2.0.4 -
>>> planning/testing starts after approval. We went ahead and installed a
> test
>>> db in any case. Make sure that you start out with 9.2.0.4 - the older
>>> 9.2.0.3 is buggy and Oracle seems to have ratified .4 recently.
>>>
>>> John Kanagaraj
>>> DB Soft Inc
>>> Phone: 408-970-7002 (W)
>>>
>>> Grace - Getting something we do NOT deserve
>>> Mercy - NOT getting something we DO deserve
>>> Click on 'http://www.needhim.org' for Grace and Mercy that is freely
>>> available!
>>>
>>> ** The opinions and facts contained in this message are entirely mine
> and do
>>> not reflect those of my employer or customers **
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ron Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:50 PM
>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>>> Subject: Apps 11.5.8 and 9i
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone upgraded Oracle Applications 11.5.8 from database
>>>> version 8.1.7 to 9i? Was it good, bad,
>>>> indifferent in regards to performance?
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to because of some of the database enhancements, but
>>>> the CIO asked the "performance"
>>>> question.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ron Thomas
>>>> Hypercom, Inc
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