I've been in the position for over 10 years now in which this was a candidate algorithm for making decisions. It doesn't work. If you make decisions this way, you'll ultimately lose your good employees, your job, or--if it's not stopped--your whole business. It just doesn't work, because to survive in business you have to be *competitive*.
Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Performance Diagnosis 101: 10/28 Phoenix, 11/19 Sydney - SQL Optimization 101: 12/8-12 Dallas - Hotsos Symposium 2004: March 7-10 Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... -----Original Message----- Mladen Gogala Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 11:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Let me continue the story. Around 11PM you want to watch a movie, so you decide to pick a few candidates, according to their letterheads, the overall outlook of the resume , resounding company names that they worked for (no matter in what capacity), the school they attended and the overall physical appearance, if such information is available. You also remember that John, the guy you play poker with has intervened in favor of one of the candidates. The short list of candidates is assembled, with your friend's candidate on top. You remember that the hiring manager owes you a favor and, voila, the fresh DBA is here! On 10/24/2003 11:54:32 AM, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote: > Bill > So you are an HR person with a well-written job description in > hand > and a > stack of resumes on the other (how may would you say a job posting > would > garner today -- 200?) It has been a long week of major and minor > employee > issues and the hiring manager has begun making ugly noises about > "when > am I > going to see some candidates?". So you stuff the whole stack in your > briefcase with the illusion of a nice quiet evening to get some > solitude to > really go through these resumes. But there are issues with your > teenage > daughter and your wife's reaction to these issues, and you glance at > your > watch, see it is 9 pm. and realize you meant to go through those > resumes. So > you sit down, read the job description once, looks like Greek, read > it > again, no better. Now you pick up the first resume and try to relate > the > words on the job description to the candidate's experience. You say > to > yourself, hmm . . this is going to be a long evening. > > Dennis Williams > DBA > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:05 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Mladen Gogala scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: > > > Pre-packaged questions are always a bad idea. When a company needs > a > > DBA, it should know what do they need him for. Do they need them to > > but that would provide that the company actually know how to define > job > duties and then convey them to HR who would then be able to screen > applicants on actual experience and not just groups of letters. > > -- > Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE DBA > "I'm going to work my ticket if I can..." -- Gilwell song > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > One had to cram all this stuff into one's mind for the examinations, > whether > one liked it or not. This coercion had such a deterring effect on me > that, > after I had passed the final examination, I found the consideration > of > any > scientific problems distasteful to me for an entire year. - Albert > Einstein > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Thater, William > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. 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