icones,
Taking an example of a shipment of a few boxes of Paphiopedilums, what are the mechanisms that will save inspectors time and effort? Will the importing country inspectors take a shippers or exporting countrys word that all the Paphiopedilums are hybrids and are in compliance with CITES? It is hardly a step more to taking a shippers or exporting countrys word that any shipment of orchids hybrids or species is in compliance with CITES, paper work included.
What species conservation measures will be given the time and effort saved by the inspectors because of the exclusion of all hybrids from CITES and CITES Documentation?
Most orchid hybrids are already excluded from CITES, does this proposed provision of all hybrids be excluded from CITES and CITES Documentation include hybrids that are from parents that are not in compliance of CITES or are questionable? Can hybrids of species orchids that have never legally been exported from their native country be legally shipped from that country even though the parents may have been illegally removed from the wild? (no CITES provisions would have been broken because the parents are in their native country)
One of the problems with CITES is rules are made but the procedures for countries to follow are not spelled out leaving member countries to interpret such rules by creating their own procedures. The procedures to follow are just as important as the rule. I am still having a hard time seeing how making a rule as all hybrids be excluded from CITES and CITES Documentation will save much time and effort, and how that savings will translate into orchid conservation.
Mark Sullivan
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 09:45:33 -0400
From: "icones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "the OrchidGuide Digest \(OGD\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OGD] Re: conservation congress - report
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Precedence: list
Reply-To: "the OrchidGuide Digest \(OGD\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message: 6
Mark,
The reason is, that the hybrids are taking up so much of the inspectors time and effort that species truly requiring conservation are being more or less ignored. Just a simple "lets put our efforts on what needs conservation". If you recall the treaty specifically identifies species, but the authorities have opted to include hybrids, notwithstanding what the treaty states.
Its kind of like the speed limit being 100km per hour but the police decide to start giving tickets at 80km per hour, notwithstanding the law.
icones
_______________________________________________ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
