tears come to my eyes thinking of them...The father was a good friend and I visited often..what a guy..and what plants..I have not had the opportunity to visit since moving to Hawaii..God knows why...but you could find a jillion neat things to buy then..and I assume now...Other than buying from me..I could think of no better place to go or to buy from..number one of ten fabulous nurseries..second would be oooops..I should not say..but a great place in the Chicago area that is very very similar to Gublers..you figure...When it comes to species orchids..there are not nearly enough places to go to in the U.S....plenty out of the country that you cannot access except at shows..there should be more...But...here is another toast to Gublers..if you are ever in Southern Calif..you should visit..Bill Bergstrom _______________________________________________ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com