I haven't attended for the past 2 months so I'm not certain, but it seems a
lot of brand new folks at each dance.

On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 8:45 AM Jeff Kaufman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> "at least 60-70% were inexperienced dancers"
>
> Has this been a mostly overlapping group of new dancers coming back each
> month, or are they mostly people who come once or twice?
>
> Jeff
>
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 1:46 AM John Little via Organizers <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following this thread.
>>
>> I'm in San Luis Obispo; similar situation. We've been thinking about this
>> a lot lately, and I think we're starting to see some good improvement.
>>
>> It also sounds like at your dance, you might be having undercurrents of
>> divisions between newer and returning dancers. This might be what's giving
>> you trouble? The fact is that beginners learn best when they dance with as
>> many different dancers as possible, so your goal is to make it so everyone 
>> *wants
>> to* dance with everyone else.
>>
>> Both new dancers and returning dancers need to be motivated in different
>> ways. New dancers should know that they'll learn the quickest and have the
>> easiest time when dancing with an experienced dancer. Returning dancers
>> should be reminded that while it's less exciting to dance with new dancers,
>> the delayed reward of well-attended, intricate, energetic dances will be
>> worth it. The juice is worth the squeeze!
>>
>> For organizers, the truth is that we can't do very much during a dance.
>> The caller has the most direct impact on whether people like dancing and
>> want to keep coming back. So as an organizer, our best things we can do
>> involve chatting closely with the caller about the crowd we expect and the
>> outcomes we're hoping for. It helps tremendously when the caller is close
>> to the community and knows how they dance, so mentoring new callers from
>> within your community sounds like it will help you with your goal. We are
>> also mentoring two new callers (editor's note: I'm one of them), and
>> because new callers need practice more than once a month, we've rustled up
>> a few of our more experienced dancers and met up outside of our monthly
>> dance to practice walkthroughs, demos, live calling, lessons, etc.
>>
>> In addition, here are some of the actionable things that we have tried.
>> Not necessarily a magic bullet; try what you like and see what sticks.
>>
>> - Two smaller breaks instead of a big one in the middle. New dancers need
>> more breaks. We did this for only 3-4 dances, and we've since gone back to
>> one break, but it seemed to be what people wanted during that time.
>>
>> - Identifying some particularly *friendly, approachable* returners who
>> are willing to be volunteered into dancing with newbies. Let beginners know
>> that these people are ultra-available to dance with. ("*Maria* - you
>> should dance with *Claude* for this dance, they're great at teaching
>> beginners!"). Maybe make some pins or ribbons for them to wear.
>>
>> - Encourage callers to really put an emphasis on pairing new dancers with
>> returning dancers - both explicitly and implicitly. If there's a group of
>> new dancers who are only dancing with each other or throwing off a line,
>> let the caller know that it's okay to break them up into new lines and
>> encourage them to find new partners. And ask the caller to reiterate the
>> statements above to motivate mingling.
>>
>> - Ask callers to focus on building up your group's technical skills by
>> calling multiple dances with the same intermediate/advanced figure.
>> Recently, we called three dances with hey figures just within the second
>> half. We were able to build up to a full hey with a ricochet, our beginners
>> mastered it well, and our returning dancers could satisfy their itch for
>> complexity and see that the whole group is improving. This one needs a
>> delicate touch, because focusing on one figure too much can become boring.
>> But I can easily imagine beginners building up to more intricate moves -
>> allemande & orbit, tricky wavy line moves, left diagonal chains, etc, if
>> the dance program is carefully thought out to build up the basics first.
>>
>> - Encourage your returning dancers to help out in the ways listed above -
>> ask them to become the approachable helpers and make pins for them. Ask
>> them to show up to help callers practice and get pizza for them.
>>
>> John L
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 8:22 PM Sandy Seiler via Organizers <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I am in Lawrence Kansas.  Since Covid we have consistently had a larger
>>> number of new dancers than experienced dancers at each dance.  This evening
>>> we had a very well attended dance with approx 70 people.  I would estimate
>>> that at least 60-70% were inexperienced dancers.  We are also in the
>>> process of grooming new callers and had a callers workshop in March so we
>>> are trying to integrate those folks in and get them more experience.  I've
>>> seen on other posts that a dance can easily absorb about 25% beginners, but
>>> we have that formula pretty much flipped.  We dance monthly which is a
>>> hindrance.  Experienced dancers are fatigued of not getting to do more
>>> complicated dances.  This has been happening for a long time and we need to
>>> make some changes so that we have a larger percentage of experienced
>>> dancers.  Suggestions?
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