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-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 1999 10:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ORION SERVER vs. APACHE BENCHMARK


All this talk about Orion's benchmarks definitely makes it attactive.
I didn't notice that Orion's web server supports SSL -- I assume this
is due to some sort of export restriction?  Is there any way to have
secure servlets/JSP/EJBs, etc?
And I agree w/ Zvi, a java-based HTTP engine that beats a native engine
hands down?  Are there any Orion users out there that can vouch for
this?
I've been using JRun since it's first beta release -- their big selling
point to
me was their proprietary JSP Taglets.  But now that JSP 1.1 has a spec
on
that...and Orion supports it...might be time to change??

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----- Original Message -----
From: Zvi Avraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 7:27 AM
Subject: ORION SERVER vs. APACHE BENCHMARK


> Foster Bob wrote:
>
> > >the orionserver site has some impressive (almost unbelievable)
benchmark
> > >comparisons(http://www.orionserver.com/benchmarks/benchmark.html)
against
> > >ServletExec
>
> From url above:
>
> <quote>
> Web server comparison with Apache
>
> This benchmark is a comparison of Orion vs Apache (one of the most
well
known web
> servers). It was conducted on a Pentium 133Mhz computer with 32Mb
> memory running Red Hat Linux 5.1. Orion was running under Blackdowns
Java
2 port
> (thanks guys for the great performance it provided by the way).
> mod_jrun was installed in the Apache server to provide servlet
support.
All tests
> were performed by a remote host using five concurrent sockets to
connect
to
> the server and retrieve a single location, time after time. What was
measured was
> general throughput and latency (time taken from the socket creation,
during
> the writes and reads, to the sockets closing. The benchmarking
application
was
> custom made, it is a native NT executable, you can get it here (or the
source
> here) to perform your own benchmarks.
>
> Static content (small file, ~0.5k)
> Apache: Pages/sec: 114.5. Latency: 43.6ms
> Orion: Pages/sec: 219.2. Latency: 19,7ms
>
> Dynamic content: (SimpleServlet)
> Apache: Pages/sec: 24.7. Latency: 201.8ms
> Orion: Pages/sec: 159.8. Latency: 32.2ms
> </quote>
>
> I understand about dynamic thing - no interface between HTTP Server to
Servlet
> Engine,
> but somebody please can explain me, how Java-based HTTP Server can be
faster than
> native ???
>
> What about complex statics pages wit a lot of images / applets  etc
... ?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> -------------------------------------------------
> Zvi Avraham, Senior Software Engineer
> NetManage Inc., Visual Connectivity Division
> http://www.netmanage.com/products/visual_conn.asp
>
>

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