RE: www.orionserver.com down again

[J.T. Wenting]

I agree that most problems people encounter are more likely caused by 1) their own applications, 2) their JVM or 3) their operating system.

Just blaming one thing (the application server written by a small startup company) is easy, but you need to look on the complete picture.

Also, running the management console in the same JVM as the Orion appserver itself makes the whole far less stable (I noticed this with 1.2.something). This is caused by generic weaknesses in Swing more than in any bad coding in the console itself. Better to just connect a console running on a remote machine and use that.

As to linux stability (especially with Java), the figures confirm my suspicions that linux is not ready for primetime...

I'm not using Orion for life sites myself (only for testing, corporate policy demands iPlanet and Websphere for deployment, but those are a bit heavy for running on a workstation). I've seen iPlanet running rockstable on one machine and go down very regularly on another running the same OS. The fault usually was either with the web application being run or with 3rd party software also running (like LDAP servers).

Jeroen T. Wenting
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Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 10:11
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: SV: www.orionserver.com down again

In the year ive used orionserver and its site, i have only experienced downtime once? And when most of the reports og orion downtime comes it still answers to me..

 

Just to followup on stability :) I coded a wap site using windows nt 4 with jdk 1.3 beta (yepp it was before the RCs came :) and it still runs, the customer forgot the server and its been running for a whole year without problems, just a few days ago I stepped inside there and browsed some wap news and there wasnt problems with it... btw that server runs orion 0.8 or 0.6 something dont remember :)

 

We are allso running a huge J2EE application with applets, jsps, ejbs (in production) and so on on the site im working on now with orion 1.4.0 and it is very stable for us. Our problems with stability is that some strange threaad issue when using JNDI from orion in the java plugin (IE and NS crash on us) but uptime on orionserver is very good.

 

Klaus Myrseth

 

 

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Fra: Hitesh Jasani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sendt: 14. desember 2000 08:21
Til: Orion-Interest
Emne: Re: www.orionserver.com down again

Thanks for the link!

You've got to be a little careful interpreting the results though.  If I read it correctly, the current moving average for uptime for the www.orionserver.com linux box is around 20 days.  However, there are no numbers for the average amount of time that the Orion server on that host is actually up and available.  This data is more a measure of the stability of the operating system than whatever web server is running on it.

At least that's my take .... but I'd like to hear other people's opinions.

Thanks,
Hitesh
 

Jeff Schnitzer wrote:

An interesting graph can be found here:

http://uptime.netcraft.com/graph?display=uptime&site=www.orionserver.com

(sorry about the previous chopped message)

Jeff Schnitzer
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