I have extense experience in PHP... had to build large web apps with it;
but soon I've had to dump it because it isn't a tiered solution, nor it
allows for easy instanciation of components
It's array definition sucks(iteration of an array can be a painfully long to
code)

For small things it's the fastest, but lacks some important features like
reuse of code(no components nor taglibs).
There's no satisfactory standard for accessing DB's either.... there's
different modules for each DB vendor;no ODBC-like 
tech that successfully works with many DB's (there's a Perl module you can
use, but is very restraining and doesn't work with
MS-SQL)
It mostly works on Linux; the compiler is made by Zend whom are aparently
disbanding.

I'll give an example:

JSP APP

Browser --> JSP --> Taglib --> EJB --> Persistence (can be DB, MQ, socket,
file, etc.)

PHP APP

Browser --> PHP --> DB

Usually DB is Postgres/MySQL

So, it depends on your aim...
if you have a small app, can choose platform and DB, go for PHP....


My 2c,
JP

-----Original Message-----
From: J.T. Wenting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Miércoles, 10 de Enero de 2001 11:32
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: JSP vs PHP


I guess the discussion was in a Linux environment. The speed issue
(especially development speed) is voiced a lot in Linux circles by PHP
advocates as the number of people in the Linux scene who know PHP far
outnumbers the number of JSP people in there.
Performance of PHP on Linux is likely also a bit better as the Linux JVMs do
not excell where it comes to performance (if only because Linux servers are
generally older, lower spec, machines and  we all know Java does only come
into its own if it has loads of memory).

Jeroen T. Wenting
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Arved
> Sandstrom
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 14:02
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: JSP vs PHP
>
>
> Can't speak for the runtime performance - PHP, JSP, and ColdFusion are all
> pretty fast - but I can't see how one can pin down development time
> differences between PHP and JSP. Maybe with an atomic clock. ColdFusion is
> faster still (higher level of abstraction).
>
> IMO the only sensible basis of comparison between these HTML-embedded
> scripting languages is platform support and feature-sets.
>
> Was that a public discussion you refer to? It would be interesting to see
> what arguments could possibly have been made.
>
> Regards,
> Arved Sandstrom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Eggink
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 5:29 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: JSP vs PHP
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I just ran into a discussion regarding PHP vs. JSP (and ASP). A claim was
> made that PHP was the better alternative as it is quicker in development
> and gives
> you a better runtime performance. I have no hands-on PHP experience. Can
> anyone explain me the benefits of PHP over JSP (and vice versa of course).
> I'm bit
> reluctant to rely solely on marketing speak.
>
>
> Thanks,
> FE
>
>
>
>
>


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