Hi Micheal:

It reads [Failed] on the headnode or the slave nodes?

It would fail on the slave nodes initially, but after a while it should
work fine...

The way to test if ntp is working properly is to run ntpq -p on both the
headnode and the slave nodes...  initially the slave nodes will show the
headnode as stratum 14, but after a while, the number should decrease
and you'll know the setup is working...

I might incorporate some testing scripts to the ntpconfig package in the
future...

Cheers,

Bernard 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Michael Edwards
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 16:53
> To: OSCAR-DEVEL
> Subject: Re: [Oscar-devel] [ oscar-Bugs-845179 ] ntpconfig 
> assumes internet connectivity
> 
> Incidently, when using the "localhost as the only ntp server"
> solution, it reads as [Failed] on bootup (at least on my FC2 setup).
> I have not investigated beyond checking ntp.conf, which looks right.
> The clocks are all within a minute of each other anyway, but 
> I presume they should be within a second (or so).
> 
> On the plus side, it does fail out a ton faster.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:42:49 -0800, SourceForge.net 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Bugs item #845179, was opened at 2003-11-19 07:12 Message generated 
> > for change (Comment added) made by jcsiadal You can respond by 
> > visiting:
> > 
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=109368&aid=845179&gr
> > oup_id=9368
> >
> > Category: Installation
> > Group: 4.1
> > Status: Closed
> > Resolution: Duplicate
> > Priority: 5
> > Submitted By: Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
> > Assigned to: Bernard Li (bernardli)
> > Summary: ntpconfig assumes internet connectivity
> >
> > Initial Comment:
> > The install scripts for ntpconfig assume that the OSCAR cluster is 
> > connected to the greater internet.  For example, it assumes 
> that the 
> > following public NTP servers can be reached:
> >
> > ntp-1.cso.uiuc.edu
> > ntp0.cornell.edu
> > ntp.cmr.gov
> >
> > If you are installing OSCAR on a disconnected network (say, 
> for a demo 
> > at SC2003) where such machines are not available, it causes lengthy 
> > timeouts during multiple phases of the OSCAR installation 
> (where ntp 
> > is stopped/started and the presence of the 
> /etc/ntp/step-tickers file 
> > makes ntp try to sync with an available time server).
> >
> > The scripts should check for connectivity to these servers (e.g., a 
> > DNS resolve and/or a ping) before assuming anything.  Failing 
> > connectivity, they should not be added to step-tickers file.
> >
> > In a worst case scenario, only 127.0.0.1 should be in 
> step-tickers so 
> > that the clients can time sync to the head node so that NFS 
> activity 
> > will be kosher.
> >
> > 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Comment By: Jeremy Siadal (jcsiadal)
> > Date: 2005-02-16 15:42
> >
> > Message:
> > Logged In: YES
> > user_id=847865
> >
> > The local (system) clock for NTP is specified by the pseudo- IP 
> > address 127.127.1.0.
> >
> > Don't confuse it with the localhost address, unless ntpconfig takes 
> > care of that conversion for us.
> >
> > 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Comment By: Bernard Li (bernardli)
> > Date: 2005-02-15 16:33
> >
> > Message:
> > Logged In: YES
> > user_id=879102
> >
> > Duplicate, see bug 1084640.
> >
> > 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Comment By: Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
> > Date: 2003-11-22 05:43
> >
> > Message:
> > Logged In: YES
> > user_id=11722
> >
> > Everything you say makes perfect sense.
> >
> > I guess my point is that it would be nice to be automatic.
> > Perhaps if ping fails to turn up a valid NTP server, then 
> perhaps we 
> > can try an ntp sync with various servers and see if that works.
> >
> > I understand that this would move the delay to the install process 
> > (vs. the boot process), but this would actually be preferable, 
> > particularly if the user can somehow be told what is happening 
> > (probably initially via a log message in the text/output 
> window, but 
> > eventually via a nice popup window saying &quot;I'm looking for a 
> > valid NTP server -- this may take a few seconds...&quot;).
> >
> > 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Comment By: Terry Fleury (tfleury)
> > Date: 2003-11-19 12:22
> >
> > Message:
> > Logged In: YES
> > user_id=116599
> >
> > Since you can't deselect ntpconfig for installation, this is rather 
> > annoying.  If I can add ntp to the base rpm list (so that you can 
> > deselect ntp), the user could avoid the waits by deselecting 
> > ntpconfig.  ntp would still be installed, but ntp is not started by 
> > default.
> >
> > The other easy solution is to go into the Configurator for 
> ntpconfig, 
> > uncheck the three default servers, and then enter
> > 127.0.0.1 into the 'extra ntp servers' textbox.  That was 
> one reason 
> > ntpconfig was created in the first place.
> >
> > Relying on some method to check for the presence of the 
> servers (such 
> > as ping) is not guaranteed to give you correct results.  
> For example, 
> > my home cable modem company has disabled pinging from home, 
> but I can 
> > use the school's ntp server without any problem.  I believe 
> there is 
> > an ntp utility that allows you to check for the presence of a given 
> > ntp server, but that requires that ntp be installed already.
> >
> > Besides, checking for an ntpserver early on only moves the 
> delay you 
> > see to an earlier time.  The best/easiest solution I see now is to 
> > either (a) not install ntpconfig (which will be able to 
> occur once ntp 
> > is added to the base RPM list) or
> > (b) configure ntpconfig to use 127.0.0.1 as the only ntp server.
> >
> > 
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