I hope Rafe's cool. We are not attacking him personally. He's been doing more for the community than MDEC is willing to pay. All my salute to him and his gang.
The problem with doing something is just that, to rival PWC we need to have people doing this 100% of the time. (PWC hire full time staff with MBA qualification in everything from IT to perfumerie). Doing things 100% of the time is just not possible for us. As stated elsewhere I'm more than willing to volunteer part of my time for free but it has to be led by someone full time. I suggested MDEC since the nation IT policy is MDEC's job but somehow no one bothers to lead. So, if someone is willing to lead the "National IT policy by the community" project fulltime, I'm more than willing to be the footsoldier. Azrul On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > hi all, > > and with all due respect to Rafe, he is on the other side, but he's on > our side;-) > So don't shoot the messenger. > > I agree with Rafe, WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Often a lot of protests > is nothing more than 'tunjuk perasaan' thre's nothing concrete. If all > we have to offer re angry voices, then we are seen as nothing more > than the noisy rabble that protest at petty issues. > > But the ICT aganda of the nation is NOT A PETTY ISSUE. We are fighting > for our future, our place in the knowledge economy. And as Red1 sez, > the web is the great equalizer, we have an opportunity, but don't > forget who controls the web? > > We, Malaysians, are merely the consumer of technology & services, we > WANT to be a producer - a well thought out ICT policy should lead us > in that direction. And this is not going to happen, if left in the > hands of bureaucrats or politicians - let alone them being advised by > vendors with vested interest. > > Rather than just 'make noise' why don't we try to draw out some > policies/programs that we can present to the higher-ups/powers that > be. Then show them we are as good if not better than those goons in > the IAP. > > I suggest we work on such 'policy' papers and produce them with > quality that can rival any of the so called 'experts' like PWC, Boston > Consulting etc.... and I'm sure we, among the community, and those > close to the community, have the ideas and the capabiity. Now we > really have to sit down and do the work, be as rigorous in the details > as we are volumnous on the big picture. > > Are we up to it? I'm sure there are those willing to contribute... if > so if we are meeting this Fri, at Red1's cyberjaya haunt, lets kick > something off.... anyone care to prepare an agenda? > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Mohd Hidzuan <hidz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Just realized that... > > > > “The boy gathers materials for a temple, and then when he is thirty, > > concludes to build a woodshed.” > > > > Am I? > > ............................................................... > > To follow the path, look to the master, > > follow the master, walk with the master, > > see through the master, become the master. > > > > Selasih Net Enterprise > > "we never sleep, we just park our head" > > > > > > Sent from Kota Bharu, Malaysia > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:07 PM, rafe azsnal <azs...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> What country work without government?? Come on lah guys don't talk > without > >> sense! I'm here bitching about thing not as MDeC but as individual.. > why? > >> because I want to see if you have what it take TO walk the talk. Stop > >> bitching and complaining AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!! > >> > >> rafe > >> > >> Send from my HTC Android > >> > >> On Nov 10, 2009 12:28 PM, "red1" <r...@red1.org> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Kedua-dua isu ini ada kaitan rapat la bro. > >> > >> Nasrul Amri Samsudin wrote: > > Dr isu IAP ke isu mknan??? > >> > >> > -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > #------- > regds, > > Boh Heong, Yap > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
