I agree with Raja that Rafe has a soft spot for OSS, despite all the "luahan hati" from him. Its good to release your frustrations, Rafe,...keeps your BP in check.
As far as the statement that Msia is not visible as OSS hub or development area compared to Singapore by your internal team (I presume its MDEC internal team), it will be interesting to see the facts that they used to conclude this. I cannot say whether its true or not but I can say there are weaknesses we need to overcome in order to strengthen our position in OSS regionally and globally. This may be a little long but pls bear with me... A. Short term 1. I am sure we have many talented developers out there who are involved in OSS in one way or the other. Its only that we do not know or hear of all of them very much. Some may prefer to be low profile - its their personal choice. How do we get them to contribute to global OSS projects? I am sure one of the many questions in developer's mind would be - what do I get if I contribute - will it pay my bills, feed me etc? No easy answer to that but I think it can be whatever you want it to be and more - with hard work, some luck and a supportive & thriving ecosystem. While we cannot control luck, I am sure it will eventually come when there is adequate supply of the other 2 ingredients. Now, do we already have a supportive & thriving ecosystem for developers (OSS in particular) in Malaysia? If we do have one, how has it helped the developers so far? How can it be improved further? If we don't have one, how do we get started? I like to hear your views on this.... B. Long term 2. We have been a nation of users for too long - and many are probably happy to continue this way. We have not been successful to get our citizens to be "hungry" to innovate and be producers, instead of just being users. They say "Necessity is the mother of invention" - well, maybe life is quite comfortable for us, Malaysians, and perhaps we don't see any need to be innovative - be it in schools/universities, work,etc. I hope I am wrong in this. My view is that we are not doing enough (compared to developed nations) to ignite the creativity & innovation among our citizens especially the kids and younger generation. Yes, we see activities here and there but it is sporadic, not coordinated and lack big picture targets. I hope the recently established dept in PM's Office, UNIK, will be able to coordinate this effort on nationwide scale in a more effective manner. I hope UNIK will utilise OSS as one of the tools to help them accelerate innovation at all levels of society, working together with all stakeholders. That's my RM 0.02 worth of "luahan".... regards Jacob On Mar 15, 12:57 pm, Raja Iskandar Shah <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote: > hikhik... rafe still has a soft spot for oss... even when he is ranting ;-) > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:49 PM, rafe azsnal <azs...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I got to go down on details with d internal team and ask them what the > > actual point that they are looking at... > > > rafe > > > On Mar 15, 2011 12:45 PM, "ApOgEE" <jerung...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > In what sense, did you compare Malaysia and Singapore as development area > > or potential OSS hub? Is it about facilities, people (community), > > entrepreneurs, company, or government? Or is it because of this mailing list > > is full of bitching and talking without anybody here showing their actual > > OSS activities? > > > As what I can see, most people I know here have done something in OSS, > > whether to OSS development and even OSS community. However, people like me > > who actually have another busy and more profitable work/business will do > > this community work as hobby and leisure. I need to work for money to feed > > my family. > > > OK, enough of my rants... none of my problems is anyone business here. > > Let's just tackle this issue. Could you please clarify on which part can > > people like me, could help in increasing Malaysia rank in 'unknown criteria' > > about being better development area or potential OSS hub compared to > > Singapore? > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:28 PM, zarul shahrin <zarulshah...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > Of course th... > > -- > > Best Wishes, > > > M. Fauzilkamil Zainuddin > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > ApOgEE a.k.a JeRuNgKuN > > ---------------------------------------------------- > >https://edge.launchpad.net/~apogee- ApOgEE on LaunchPad > >http://artofapogee.blogspot.com- Art Of ApOgEE > >http://coderstalk.blogspot.com- Coder's Talk > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > >http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-inf... > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > >http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information > > > MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
