http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/report-piracy-a-global-pricing-problem-with-only-one-solution.ars

<http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/report-piracy-a-global-pricing-problem-with-only-one-solution.ars>Just
a interesting related article

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi,
>
> some very good points were raised, I've added some comments below...
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Ghodmode <ghodm...@ghodmode.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> > <linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Criminals can’t compete with free. The study finds no systematic links
> >> > between media piracy and >organized crime or terrorism in any of the
> >> > countries examined. Today, commercial pirates and >transnational
> smugglers
> >> > face the same dilemma as the legal industry: how to compete with free.
> >>
> >> This worry me. Free and OSS have two front to compete with. Legal and
> >> pirates will find ways that can be used against.
> >
> > OSS has some very strong benefits over legally licensed software.  The
> way I
> > see it, our only difficulty in this "competition" is how to make people
> > aware of the benefits effectively, and without the aid of a marketing
> > department.
> >
> > I'm more worried about illegally copied software.  Even with the clearly
> > documented benefits of OSS, it's hard to convince people to change the
> > software they've been using for years when the price is free and there's
> no
> > penalty for the illegal copy.  Luckily, the big software companies are
> > fighting this battle for us.  As they continue to make security mistakes
> and
> > push harder on copyright law enforcement, it becomes more likely that
> people
> > will consider alternatives.
> >
>
> Its an ironical situation isn't it? The more the big proprietry SW
> guys fight the 'piracy' battle, the more FOSS would benefit. Maybe the
> penalties are not harsh enough, and there is no stigma associated with
> 'pirating' SW. Its not seen as 'harming anybody'. Perhaps its the ease
> of getting away with using pirated SW that prevents FOSS from gaining
> ground. So I thing that is nothing to fear here.
>
>
> > Sabar je lah! :)  We don't even really need to think of this as a
> > competition because our community isn't a corporation that needs to make
> a
> > profit each quarter.  Just continue to be awesome, like we already are,
> and
> > make the software available to people when they're ready... it'll just
> > happen.
> >
>
> >
> >> Legal will used patent as ways to gain more profit from any software
> >> including OSS.
> >
> > I didn't quite understand this line.  If you meant that proprietary
> software
> > companies will use patents and copyright laws to get more profit than
> they
> > deserve from their own software and OSS software, I think you're right.
> > This worries me, too.  We can defend ourselves by being wary of the FUD
> and
> > supporting organizations that work to defend our rights like EFF.
> >
> What to fear is SW Patents and equiv. laws used to intimidate and
> victimise FOSS SW developers. If the Prop. SW guys manage to do that
> and scare away FOSS developers, that will be a major blow. If
> anything, we must fight these SW Patents as strongly as possible.
>
> I'm not against SW Patents per se, ie: if someone invents an algorithm
> that does encryption faster, smaller and more secure, then by all
> means it shoud be patented. But not for a process, or a UI, and then
> prevent competitors from doing the same thing... that's ridiculous.
>
> But, if that knowledge is shared, ie: like published as an academic
> paper, then others can learn from it and perhaps tweak it to make it
> better. What you don't want then is someone to take an 'open' idea,
> add their own inputs on it, then 'close' (& patent) it! But that's
> what GPL is there to prevent.
> >
> >>
> >> Pirate will use harmful ways to give bad name to any software. Example
> >> day 0 exploit.
> >
> > Are you talking about a "Zero-day attack" (
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-day_attack )?  What does that have to
> do
> > with piracy, OSS, or even proprietary software?  Theoretically, this kind
> of
> > exploit will affect any type of software project, free or otherwise,
> > equally.  However, OSS generally has a shorter turn-around for bug fixes
> and
> > a community with greater awareness than that of proprietary software, so
> > this kind of exploit actually works in our favor.  It's one of our
> > advantages over proprietary software.
> >
> I don't think that (commercial) pirates can actually harm FOSS. In
> fact I think it would be great if they can copy and distributes
> 1,000's copies of FOSS CD's, it will help spread FOSS. Maybe we should
> persuade them to do so ;-)
>
> >
> > -- Ghodmode
> > http://www.ghodmode.com/blog
> >
> >
> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Haris bin Ali <ha...@qedx.com> wrote:
> >> > I figured this might be of interest:
> >> >
> >> > Media Piracy in Emerging Economies is the first independent,
> large-scale
> >> > study of music, film and software piracy in emerging economies, with a
> >> > focus
> >> > on Brazil, India, Russia, South Africa, Mexico and Bolivia.
> >
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