Just curious, how many of you actually read the 440 page report? ;) Yeah, couldn't get through it either.
It seems to me that aside from pricing which needs to be somehow proportional to GDP/head, another issue is timing. Media need to be universally available at the same time. Staggering the release of your movie/software/whatever based on geography no longer makes sense. //ha...@qedx.com On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:03 PM, sweemeng ng <swees...@gmail.com> wrote: > http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/report-piracy-a-global-pricing-problem-with-only-one-solution.ars > Just a interesting related article > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> hi, >> >> some very good points were raised, I've added some comments below... >> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Ghodmode <ghodm...@ghodmode.com> wrote: >> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel >> > <linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Criminals can’t compete with free. The study finds no systematic links >> >> > between media piracy and >organized crime or terrorism in any of the >> >> > countries examined. Today, commercial pirates and >transnational >> >> > smugglers >> >> > face the same dilemma as the legal industry: how to compete with >> >> > free. >> >> >> >> This worry me. Free and OSS have two front to compete with. Legal and >> >> pirates will find ways that can be used against. >> > >> > OSS has some very strong benefits over legally licensed software. The >> > way I >> > see it, our only difficulty in this "competition" is how to make people >> > aware of the benefits effectively, and without the aid of a marketing >> > department. >> > >> > I'm more worried about illegally copied software. Even with the clearly >> > documented benefits of OSS, it's hard to convince people to change the >> > software they've been using for years when the price is free and there's >> > no >> > penalty for the illegal copy. Luckily, the big software companies are >> > fighting this battle for us. As they continue to make security mistakes >> > and >> > push harder on copyright law enforcement, it becomes more likely that >> > people >> > will consider alternatives. >> > >> >> Its an ironical situation isn't it? The more the big proprietry SW >> guys fight the 'piracy' battle, the more FOSS would benefit. Maybe the >> penalties are not harsh enough, and there is no stigma associated with >> 'pirating' SW. Its not seen as 'harming anybody'. Perhaps its the ease >> of getting away with using pirated SW that prevents FOSS from gaining >> ground. So I thing that is nothing to fear here. >> >> >> > Sabar je lah! :) We don't even really need to think of this as a >> > competition because our community isn't a corporation that needs to make >> > a >> > profit each quarter. Just continue to be awesome, like we already are, >> > and >> > make the software available to people when they're ready... it'll just >> > happen. >> > >> >> > >> >> Legal will used patent as ways to gain more profit from any software >> >> including OSS. >> > >> > I didn't quite understand this line. If you meant that proprietary >> > software >> > companies will use patents and copyright laws to get more profit than >> > they >> > deserve from their own software and OSS software, I think you're right. >> > This worries me, too. We can defend ourselves by being wary of the FUD >> > and >> > supporting organizations that work to defend our rights like EFF. >> > >> What to fear is SW Patents and equiv. laws used to intimidate and >> victimise FOSS SW developers. If the Prop. SW guys manage to do that >> and scare away FOSS developers, that will be a major blow. If >> anything, we must fight these SW Patents as strongly as possible. >> >> I'm not against SW Patents per se, ie: if someone invents an algorithm >> that does encryption faster, smaller and more secure, then by all >> means it shoud be patented. But not for a process, or a UI, and then >> prevent competitors from doing the same thing... that's ridiculous. >> >> But, if that knowledge is shared, ie: like published as an academic >> paper, then others can learn from it and perhaps tweak it to make it >> better. What you don't want then is someone to take an 'open' idea, >> add their own inputs on it, then 'close' (& patent) it! But that's >> what GPL is there to prevent. >> > >> >> >> >> Pirate will use harmful ways to give bad name to any software. Example >> >> day 0 exploit. >> > >> > Are you talking about a "Zero-day attack" ( >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-day_attack )? What does that have to >> > do >> > with piracy, OSS, or even proprietary software? Theoretically, this >> > kind of >> > exploit will affect any type of software project, free or otherwise, >> > equally. However, OSS generally has a shorter turn-around for bug fixes >> > and >> > a community with greater awareness than that of proprietary software, so >> > this kind of exploit actually works in our favor. It's one of our >> > advantages over proprietary software. >> > >> I don't think that (commercial) pirates can actually harm FOSS. In >> fact I think it would be great if they can copy and distributes >> 1,000's copies of FOSS CD's, it will help spread FOSS. Maybe we should >> persuade them to do so ;-) >> >> > >> > -- Ghodmode >> > http://www.ghodmode.com/blog >> > >> > >> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Haris bin Ali <ha...@qedx.com> wrote: >> >> > I figured this might be of interest: >> >> > >> >> > Media Piracy in Emerging Economies is the first independent, >> >> > large-scale >> >> > study of music, film and software piracy in emerging economies, with >> >> > a >> >> > focus >> >> > on Brazil, India, Russia, South Africa, Mexico and Bolivia. >> > >> > -- >> > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group >> > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information >> > >> > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> #------- >> regds, >> >> Boh Heong, Yap >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group >> http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information >> >> MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 > > -- > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information > > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 > -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
