Hi,

Am Sonntag, den 16.01.2011, 18:06 +0100 schrieb Carsten Ziegeler: 
> Felix Meschberger  wrote
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Am Samstag, den 15.01.2011, 11:16 +0100 schrieb Carsten Ziegeler: 
> >> Yes, but in these cases all components implementing the service would be
> >> active though only one is used.
> > 
> > No. As long as you only have the ServiceReference in hand delayed
> > components are not (fully) activated, i.e. the classes not instantiated
> > (and potentially not even loaded).
> > 
> Yepp exactly - I realized this directly after sending my mail above :)
> 
> But still, using this technique your component has a 1..n reference to a
> service though actually it's a 1..1 (or 0..n vs 0..1).

Yes, but so what ? ;-)

Regards
Felix

> 
> Thanks
> Carsten
> 
> > Regards
> > Felix
> > 
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Carsten
> >>
> >> BJ Hargrave  wrote
> >>> Or SortedSet.first() :-)
> >>>
> >>> This is assuming you use a Collections.reverseOrder() comparator.
> >>> Otherwise the first element is the lowest ranking.
> >>> -- 
> >>>
> >>> *BJ Hargrave*
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From:        Felix Meschberger <[email protected]>
> >>> To:        OSGi Developer Mail List <[email protected]>
> >>> Date:        2011/01/14 21:18
> >>> Subject:        Re: [osgi-dev] [DS] Improve reference support ?
> >>> Sent by:        [email protected]
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Albeit a bit clumsy it is also possible using an internal Sorted
> >>> collection. The reference is converted to a multiple one and the
> >>> ServiceReferences are kept in, say, a SortedSet such that the service
> >>> with the highest ranking is always provided by
> >>> sortedSet.iterator().next().
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Felix
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am Freitag, den 14.01.2011, 11:34 +0100 schrieb Peter Kriens:
> >>>> Isn't this easily handed by a little helper class?
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>                  Peter Kriens
> >>>>
> >>>> On 14 jan 2011, at 11:27, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> we're using declarative services a lot - it's usually sufficient and
> >>>>> works pretty well :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only drawback we're facing - and I've heard this from others as well
> >>>>> - is the lack of proper support for references and the service ranking
> >>>>> property: once a reference is bound it is not updated if a new component
> >>>>> providing the same service but with a higher service ranking arrives.
> >>>>> So, it gets more unpredictable and depends on the startup order of
> >>>>> services to what service such a reference is bound.
> >>>>> In these cases, you can't use DS.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It would be great, to have a way to exactly define a reference that is
> >>>>> always bound to the service with the highest ranking. To be compatible
> >>>>> this has to be something new as we shouldn't change the current
> >>>>> behaviour. So maybe adding a new optional property to the reference tag
> >>>>> in the XML specifying if a rebound should happen due to service ranking
> >>>>> or something along these lines.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WDYT?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> Carsten
> >>>>> --
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