Hi Mike, may I ask how many developers tried the second public exam?
I liked that the tooling was not specified at all. E.g.: I used our self-developed tools which I could work rapidly. It would have been hard if I had to use tools that I was not familiar with. Probably a testing environment could have speed up the work, where I could deploy the developed / fixed bundles and be sure that I was ready (all pre-written tests passed). I do not mean an IDE, but only a container with webconsole or autodeploy directory started with a shell / batch script. Regards, *Zsoldos Balázs* Rendszertervező | Software architect +36 70 594 9234 | [email protected] *EverIT Kft.* 1137 Budapest, Katona József utca 17. III. em. 2. http://www.everit.biz I [email protected] Ezen üzenet és annak bármely csatolt anyaga bizalmas, jogi védelem alatt áll, a nyilvános közléstől védett. Az üzenetet kizárólag a címzett, illetve az általa meghatalmazottak használhatják fel. 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On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Mike Francis <[email protected]> wrote: > Brian > > Thanks for sitting the exam and also many thanks for your feedback, it is > very useful. > > I will make sure that this is shared with the team that put the exam > together. > > We will be in touch once all the candidates exams are marked. > > Regards > Mike > > On 27 Jan 2015, at 06:32, Brian St Clair <[email protected]> wrote: > > Before I forget, I wanted to give you some quick feedback. I took the > developer exam at the Salesforce office on Thursday 1/22/2015, with you and > Tim. > > * Overall, I thought the content was excellent and focused on useful areas. > > * I think you need to figure out a way for testers to type answers to > "written" questions, not write them by hand. From me, at least, you would > have gotten more complete and better reasoned answers had I been able to > type them instead of write them. This seems like a tiny thing, but I think > it's actually a big deal, especially when time is of such essence. > > * My primary challenges were around tooling, and this seemed to be echoed > by the other guys taking the test. For me, personally, I do not do OSGi > development on a regular basis (although I expect that to change soon). I > have been doing software development for roughly 18 years, but not much > OSGi. It would have been useful to include more specific descriptions of > the functional tasks that we would be needing to do in the exam, e.g. > "install and uninstall bundles provided for you into a running OSGi > container", "modify a manifest and rebuild a bundle jar using Ant", etc. In > addition, many people use Maven for their day-to-day development. While I > realize that there are reasons for not wanting to provide internet access, > it would be very useful to be given the provided jars ahead of the exam so > that we could pre-populate a local Maven repo. Instructions specifically > related to setting up Maven with everything we would need for the exam > would have been useful. > > I'm not sure what the best solution is to the "tooling" question, but > given that there is no internet access, I think more information could be > provided to candidates about how to prepare from a "dev environment" or > "tooling" perspective than was provided, without negatively affecting the > integrity of the test. > > In summary, great content, but I spent too much time writing answers by > hand that I could have better composed by typing, and I (and others) lost > way too much time struggling with figuring out tooling in a "no internet" > context, which adds nothing to the evaluation of my OSGi knowledge or > general programming ability. > > Thanks - I hope that feedback is helpful. The moderators were great, and > incredibly professional. Hopefully I pass, but if not I fully intend on > taking the exam again. > > Best, > Brian St.Clair > Salesforce > > > > Mike Francis > Sales & Marketing Director > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > UK +44 207 993 8915 > US +1 415-738-8349 > Fax +44 845 127 5999 > Mobile +44 791 933 5933 > Email [email protected] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > www.paremus.com > > Paremus Limited. Registered in England. Registration No. 4181472 > Registered Office: 22-24 Broad Street, Wokingham, Berks RG40 1BA > Postal Address: 107-111 Fleet Street, London, EC4A 2AB > The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s) or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, > or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons > or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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