Terrorism, and the advocacy thereof, is not a First Amendment issue...or
even a Constitution issue.  If the government wins this case they could, and
should, shut down at least the 80% of the mosques in the US that are
bin-Laden Wahabbists.

-Bruce


Washington Post
April 4, 2005
Terrorism Case Puts Words of Muslim Leader On Trial in Va.
By Jerry Markon
Washington Post Staff Writer
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A23697-2005Apr3?language=printer  

Islamic spiritual leader Ali Al-Timimi's pen is mightier than his sword,
prosecutors contend. It's not so much his actions but his words that
make him so dangerous, they say.

Less than a week after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Timimi told a group
of Northern Virginia Muslims that it should train for violent jihad
abroad and wage war on the United States, prosecutors say. In 2003, he
celebrated the crash of the space shuttle Columbia in a message that
prosecutors say reflected his view that the United States itself should
be destroyed.

The government says the statements of Timimi -- who goes on trial today
in U.S. District Court in Alexandria -- constitute nothing short of
treason. But some Muslims, who are rallying to Timimi's side through a
Web site and other expressions of support, see a respected religious
leader being prosecuted for his words.

"He is not accused of anything except talking. It's all about him saying
something," said Shaker Elsayed, a member of the executive committee of
Dar Al Hijrah mosque in Falls Church. "If this isn't a First Amendment
issue, I don't know what is."

Although legal experts are as divided on the case as the two sides are,
some said that the case reflects the power of words in the post-Sept. 11
climate -- and that it poses an important test of the free-speech rights
Americans have come to expect since the First Amendment to the
Constitution was ratified in 1791.

"This is a troubling case with very significant First Amendment
concerns," said Jonathan Turley, a George Washington University law
professor with experience in national security cases.

If Timimi "encouraged people to go kill Americans, it comes very close
to the criminal line, if not passing over it," Turley said. But
historically, he said, "Courts have been uneasy with a criminal
allegation based solely on words alone."

Victoria Toensing, a Washington lawyer who created the Justice
Department's terrorism unit during the Reagan administration, said
Timimi's words could send him to prison.

"If he said, 'I want you to go join the movement in Afghanistan and here
is where you get the training,' that's no different from saying, 'Go
join a murder club,' " Toensing said.

Whether Timimi will go to prison probably will depend on whether he
expected his listeners to act on what he told them, legal experts said.
Although free-speech rights have been interpreted differently in
different eras, the current standard derives from the 1969 U.S. Supreme
Court opinion Brandenburg v. Ohio, they said.

That opinion says the government cannot forbid "advocacy of the use of
force" unless that advocacy is intended or likely to produce "imminent
lawless action.''

"The key," said Rebecca Glenberg, legal director for the ACLU of
Virginia, "is whether Timimi's speech was likely to cause others to act
and whether he intended it to cause them to act.''

Timimi is charged with 10 counts, which include attempting to contribute
services to the Taliban and soliciting or inducing others to commit a
variety of crimes, such as conspiring to levy war on the United States,
using firearms and carrying explosives. One charge involving war is
drawn from a section of federal law headed "treason.''

If convicted on all counts, Timimi, 41, of Fairfax County, would face up
to life in prison. Jury selection began last Monday, and opening
statements are scheduled for today. The trial, before U.S. District
Judge Leonie M. Brinkema, is expected to last as long as three weeks.

Prosecutors declined to comment for this story. When Timimi was indicted
in September, U.S. Attorney Paul J. McNulty accused him of counseling
young men to take up arms against the United States "while bodies were
still being pulled from the rubble of the World Trade Center and the
Pentagon."

Attorneys for Timimi also would not comment, but they have indicated in
court filings that they plan to raise free speech and First Amendment
concerns.

"These statements reflect religious and political beliefs that, while
offensive to the vast majority of Americans, are merely reflections of
the defendant's Constitutionally protected freedoms of speech,
association and religion," the attorneys, Edward B. MacMahon Jr. and
Alan H. Yamamoto, wrote.

The case is the culmination of a highly publicized investigation after
which 11 Muslim men, all but one from the Washington area, were charged
with participating in paramilitary training -- including playing
paintball in the Virginia countryside -- to prepare for "holy war"
abroad. Timimi was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in that case.
Nine of the men were convicted in 2003 and last year.

Some of the men are expected to testify against Timimi.

In 2000 and 2001, Timimi, a U.S. citizen who grew up in the area, was
the primary lecturer at the Center for Islamic Information and
Education, also known as Dar Al-Arqam, in Falls Church.

On Sept. 16, 2001, the government contends, Timimi met with a group of
followers from the mosque. The indictment says he told them that "the
time had come" for them to join the "violent jihad" in Afghanistan and
that U.S. troops likely to soon arrive there "would be legitimate
targets.''

At the same meeting, the indictment says, Timimi approved of a plan for
group members to prepare for jihad by obtaining military training from
Lashkar-i-Taiba, an organization trying to drive India from the disputed
region of Kashmir. The U.S. government has labeled Lashkar a terrorist
organization,

Several of the men then went to a Lashkar camp, where they fired assault
rifles and rocket-propelled grenades, court records show.

On Feb. 1, 2003, in what the indictment describes as a "message to his
followers,'' Timimi said the space shuttle crash meant that "Western
supremacy [especially that of the United States] . . . is coming to a
quick end." The message also referred to "the destruction of the Jews.''

In a court filing, prosecutors contend that the message constituted
Timimi telling his followers "that the United States was their greatest
enemy and should be destroyed.''

Some area Muslims say the government is mischaracterizing a peaceful
religious leader. A Web site formed by an organization that calls itself
"Dr. Ali Al-Timimi's support committee" lists 21 letters of support. One
letter, signed only by "Ahmad," hails Timimi's "beautiful and inspiring
lectures" at Dar Al-Arqam. Another, from "Wael,'' concludes that "the
government's charges are bogus.''

In a response to e-mail questions from The Washington Post in 2003,
Timimi said that he never has advocated violence and that "many of my
best qualities are simply because I am an American." He acknowledged
that he "has opinions that go counter to the mainstream of American
society."






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