Sorry, I'm still learning how to participate on list serves and not sure how to 
send this back just to you, Birgitt.

Thank you very much Birgitt, for your thoughts and response.  What you outlined 
is exactly what we didn't do enough of!.  Ah, the learning process.  My 
colleague was the one "grounded" and "trained" in using OS and I was limited in 
knowing the pitfalls to challenge and the questions to ask.  

from a  fellow Canadian, Birgitt -- I grew up in a little town -- La Salle -- 
outside of Windsor.  Small world, eh?

Karen
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Birgitt Bolton <birg...@worldchat.com>
    To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu>
    Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 6:35 AM
    Subject: Re: Question to experienced OS users
    
    
    Hi Karen,
    your question is a good one and it is why we emphasize working out the 
"givens" so thoroughly ahead of time. I think that Jay's outline of what it is 
he does with the client ahead of time is one of the best I've seen and 
certainly encompasses much of what I do with every open space. It is the 
sponsor, after all, that really opens the space and needs to determine how much 
space is really being opened. I make a big point of saying to the sponsors that 
it doesn't matter how much space is opened, even a teeny space is okay---what 
matters is that they are TRUTHFUL about the amount of space. This of course is 
done by establishing the "givens" very clearly including what the process is 
for decision after the event. I build into every contract time to work with the 
sponsors ahead of the event to clarify accurate theme (the one they say they 
want up front and what they usually really want are often not the same) and 
time to go through the "givens". The process of sorting through the "givens" is 
much harder than one might think. Mostly because it is about truth and clarity 
and many companies have a hard time with this.  So, we take a day before the 
event to do this. And I build in a day after the event to figure out how to 
make the most of it all once the experience of OS has happened.
    
    Warmest regards,
    Birgitt
    
    Birgitt Bolton of Dalar Associates
    www.openspacetechnology.com
    55 Ravina Cres., Ancaster, Ontario, Canada
     L9G 2E8
    phone: 905-648-5775  fax: 905-648-2262 

    
        -----Original Message-----
        From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu]On Behalf Of Karen 
du Four des Champs
        Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 1:40 PM
        To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
        Subject: Question to experienced OS users
        
        
        I facilitated a 3 day Retreat for a client using a day and a half of 
Open Space with another colleague a year ago.  Months later, the client 
retained me to continue some aspects of the work we began the year before, 
including assuring the OS notes and recommendations were distributed to all.  
Some of the work that was to occur by the client in terms assuring all 
convenors followed through did not occur consistently.  
        
        Now, I'm spending alot of time working to "clean up many of the 
assumptions" we put out during the OS process.  Our fundamental assumption 
(confirmed with the division chief) that staff were "truly empowered" to 
convene a session and follow through with their recommendations had several 
barriers (not all of which we, as facilitators could be aware of at the time) 
i.e.. legal constraints, budgetary constraints and most fundamental and 
intrinsic was that this group was just a micro of a macro org that has a 
systemic culture of "hierarchical decision making," so although the division 
chief was supportive of this process of accountability, there were those 
recommendations (stated above) that could not be carried out and thus it 
appears to participants that this process was just lip service.  My main lesson 
in all of this was in tee-ing up the process with clearer directions given the 
systems limitations.
        
        Anyone have thoughts of wisdom or ideas to share to minimize the 
long-term impact of the process "backfiring."   I will be facilitating their 
next process next week.  Thank you.
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        INERCOR, Training & Consulting Co.
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        Vashon Island, WA  98070
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