Lovely explanation, Birgitt - and it fills the spaces of what is it that we are doing when we are loving - it is a state of consciousness - the form takes the manifestation of emotion - yet "love" is a state of our conscious awareness that brings us to union that is beyond words. In the space of open space (both physical and non-physical), there is room for this state of awareness without definition.
Blessings in the One Heart, Toni ----- Original Message ----- From: "Birgitt Williams" <birg...@mindspring.com> To: <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Holding Space in Emergent Systems > Chris and Tim, > thank you for your contributions regarding Love.It is difficult to describe > and yet when we experience it we know it. This includes our love > relationship with what we cannot experience through our five senses, it > includes our love relationship with Creator/Spirit. When we are in that > state with Spirit, there is a huge knowing, an ecstacy that cannot be put > into words. And in those moments, in our knowing, we can experience that > there is only one Whole of everything. All is Spirit and all is perfect and > balanced. There is this knowing, which is like a stillpoint, a place of > REST from which, through thinking, all that is created finds form. Anything > that we do to describe stages, or systems or to describe separation, does > not seem to fit with this inner knowing. Our experience of systems, of > separation is only one aspect of the whole. > > My worldview is that all form stems from this source and that to experience > form/matter we require both rest and motion. If all is rest, we cannot > experience matter. If all is motion, we cannot experience matter. I do not > have any concept of what governs rest, except that rest is governed by love. > I believe that what we perceive as the universal law/laws govern motion but > do not govern the whole.. > > Blessings to you and all whom you make genuine contact with, > > Birgitt Williams > Mentoring for Organizational Effectiveness > > visit us at www.genuinecontact.com <http://www.genuinecontact.com/> and > join the list serve at http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/genuinecontact > <http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/genuinecontact> > > "I believe that Spirit matters and people are precious. I know that > organizations incorporating these values have exciting, tangible results > including wealth, prosperity, and abundance. Daily, these organizations > attend to their health and balance. Participating in the Genuine Contact > program takes you on a learning journey of HOW to achieve the healthy and > balanced organization (the conscious Open Space Organization)." Birgitt > Williams, Dalar International Consultancy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu]On Behalf Of > Sullivan, Tim J. MCF:EX > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:58 PM > To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > Subject: Re: Holding Space in Emergent Systems > > > That's easy for me to answer...Chris will have his own response, similar i > am sure. > > LOVE operates at ALL the levels: > > Love manifesting according to degree of penness/Willingness ->Participants > in a meeting > | > Channel for Manifestation of Love -> Sponsor/facilitator > | > SPACE/TIME conditions for manifestation of LOVE in Action -> OST > | > LOVE-in-ACTION -> Principles of self-organization > | > Operating Plan > | > Principle of Divine LOVE/Action (HOLY LOVE)-> Basic universal laws (givens) > | > LOVE = Creator (One of the 99 names of the Creator..according to ONE > Tradition) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu]On Behalf Of Chris > Corrigan > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:42 PM > To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > Subject: Re: Holding Space in Emergent Systems > > > Love is another one of those things that fails in the telling. > > Years ago I had an insight into love that has stuck with me. I was in a > group talking about communication tools and someone drew a couple of > concentric circles, and then drew a line between the two outermost circles. > We talked about this as a form of communication. Then we drew the line > deeper and deeper and added another, so that now we had two lines moving > between the circles. Finally we extended both lines to the centre of both > circles and i immediately blurted out "That's love." > > So, I feel like I know it when I see it. :-) > > Chris > > > > Birgitt Williams wrote: > > > Chris, > > I will answer and gladly, but first I wonder if you could add to what you > > have written by sharing from your worldview where love fits into this and > > what love is. This will help me in what I say in my response. > > > > Blessings to you and all whom you make genuine contact with, > > > > Birgitt Williams > > Mentoring for Organizational Effectiveness > > > > visit us at www.genuinecontact.com <http://www.genuinecontact.com/> and > > join the list serve at http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/genuinecontact > > <http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/genuinecontact> > > > > "I believe that Spirit matters and people are precious. I know that > > organizations incorporating these values have exciting, tangible results > > including wealth, prosperity, and abundance. Daily, these organizations > > attend to their health and balance. Participating in the Genuine Contact > > program takes you on a learning journey of HOW to achieve the healthy and > > balanced organization (the conscious Open Space Organization)." Birgitt > > Williams, Dalar International Consultancy > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu]On Behalf Of Chris > > Corrigan > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:37 PM > > To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > Subject: Re: Holding Space in Emergent Systems > > > > Birgitt, I'm curious about some things in your email on > > self-organization. As I read your note, it suggested to me, to borrow a > > term from Ken Wilber, a holoarchy of organization. I see the holoarchy > > proceeding from level to level something like this: > > > > Participants in a meeting > > | > > Sponsor/facilitator > > | > > OST > > | > > Principles of self-organization > > | > > Divine Operating Plan > > | > > Basic universal laws (givens) > > | > > Creator > > > > This is my rough sketch suggesting that each level (from the bottom up) > > emerges in time and includes and transcends the level below it. > > > > So my questions are: > > > > * What is the difference between the Basic universal laws, and the > > principles of self-organization? > > * How were/are the basic universal laws organized? > > * Did the Creator self-organize and if so, how? > > > > I guess I am essentially wondering at how deep the principles of > > self-organization extend, and whether they simply manifest things in the > > sensory world (five senses) or whether they manifest ALL things, > > including the Creator and the basic universal laws that keep the planets > > from colliding. I think my world view suggests a bit of a different > > holoarchy that places something like the principles of self-organization > > on the lowest level. > > > > In my world view, evolving as it is, I see the "principles of > > self-organization" if that's what we want to call them, as that which > > manifests everything. Lately my world view has been greatly informed by > > Taoism, but it is also informed by the Ojibway Midewiwin teachings which > > essentially say the same thing. What they say is that there is a Way > > (in Taoism) or the Mide (in Ojibway) which is like a road upon which > > everything travels. It is also something which can never be experienced > > by talking about it, so putting words on it like this is folly. The Way > > or the Mide is the path of basic nature, and everything travels along > > this path. In Taoism it is said that the Tao gives rise to all things, > > and that it can be used but never exhausted, like the space within a > > bucket. One can use that space forever and ever, but it never gets > > depleted. > > > > In the Tao Te Ching, Lao Tzu writes: > > > > The Way is always uncontrived, > > yet there is nothing it doesn't do. > > If lords and monarchs can keep to it, > > all beings would evolve spontaneously. > > When they have evolved and want to act, > > I would stabilize them with nameless simplicity. > > Even nameless simplicity would not be wanted. > > By not wanting there would be calm, > > and the world will straighten itself. > > > > (Chapter 37) > > > > In both Taoist teachings (found in spades in a book called "Wen Tzu" > > among others) as well as Mide teachings, there is a strong equivalence > > between the Way and virtue, or goodness, or life affirming choice. > > These are often put together so that it is sometimes said that "the Way > > and Virtue gives rise to all things." > > > > All of this is just background for my questions. My own world view > > includes people like Lao Tzu, my Midewiwin teachers, Stuart Kauffman, > > Kevin Kelly, Ken Wilber and others all trying to get at an expression of > > the lowest level of the organization holoarchy, that which gives rise to > > anything. I see this really interesting discussion as another way of > > getting there too. > > > > Chris > > > > Birgitt Williams wrote: > > > > > Harrison,My belief and worldview is one that is grateful for the > > > greater Open Space of the world, created by our Creator, and for the > > > Divine Operating Plan inclusive of basic universal laws (givens) for > > > which I am greatful and if they weren't being attended to we might > > > just have our planets colliding with one another and so on. Within > > > this Divine Operating Plan that I view as a matrix of some sort (the > > > finite mind has a problem grasping the infinite, despite a deep > > > knowing that is within me) every organism, including humans, seem to > > > have free will to make choices that are either life depleting or life > > > nurturing. As such, the visible world can appear to be self organizing > > > within this greater Divine Operating Plan. Whether our free will takes > > > us to a collective will that organizes ourselves to be life nurturing > > > or life depleting is still unknown. Thank goodness that the seen world > > > (the world experienced by our five senses) is not the total picture. I > > > have a lot of faith in the unseen world to assist us to choose a life > > > nurturing future. Within Open Space Technology, created by yourself, > > > we have a magnificent window to heighten our conscious awareness about > > > our choices. That which is experienced by the five senses in an OST > > > meeting may appear to be self organizing within a matrix developed and > > > held by the collaboration of the facilitator and the sponsor and any > > > others who so choose as the meeting unfolds. A matrix seems to be > > > needed for the self organizing to appear. The richness and depth of > > > the "self organizing" within the OST meeting seems to be impacted by > > > the ability of the facilitator to work with the unseen world (in my > > > experience, this is the opening and holding of "space" which is not > > > empty space at all but indeed very full). In the games you are > > > referring to, a matrix is created, within which the players have > > > choice, usually again choices between life depleting and life > > > nurturing. > > > Blessings to you and all whom you make genuine contact > > > with<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = > > > "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> > > > > > > BirgittWilliams > > > > > > Mentoring for Organizational Effectiveness > > > > > > We invite you to visit us at www.genuinecontact.com and join the list > > > serve at http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/genuinecontact > > > > > > "I believe that Spirit matters and people are precious. I know that > > > organizations incorporating these values have exciting, tangible > > > results including wealth, prosperity, and abundance. Daily, these > > > organizations attend to their health and balance. Participating in the > > > Genuine Contact program takes you on a learning journey of HOW to > > > achieve the healthy and balanced organization (the conscious Open > > > Space Organization)."Birgitt Williams, Dalar International Consultancy > > > > > > Contact information for Dalar International Consultancy > > > > > > Mailing address: Po Box 19373, Raleigh, North Carolina, USA 27619 or > > > for courier 12136 Shooting Club Rd., Raleigh, North Carolina USA 27613 > > > > > > Phone: 919-522-7750Fax: 919-870-6599 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu]On > > > Behalf Of Harrison Owen > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:36 AM > > > To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > > Subject: Holding Space in Emergent Systems > > > > > > I am, as some may know, afflicted with the notion that all > > > systems are essentially self-organizing, and that in Open > > > Space we are basically dealing with one more such emergent > > > system. Holding Space, therefore has something to do with > > > the art and practice of sustaining self-organization. turns > > > out we are not alone. Programers who do games of an emergent > > > sort seem to be playing in the same sandbox. See the > > > following: > > > > > > "One of the pleasures of what I do," Zimmerman tells me, > > > over coffee near the NYU campus, "is that you get to see a > > > player take what you*ve designed and use it in completely > > > unexpected ways." The designer, in other words, controls the > > > micromotives of the player*s actions. But the way those > > > micromotives are exploited- and the macrobehavior that they > > > generate-are out of the designer*s control. They have a life > > > of their own. > > > > > > Sound a little Familiar? For more, check out Steven > > > Johnson's book "Emergence" (Scribner/2001) > > > > > > Harrison > > > > > > Harrison Owen > > > 7808 River Falls Drive > > > Potomac, MD 20854 USA > > > phone 301-365-2093 > > > Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com > > > Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org > > > Personal website > > > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm > > > > > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > > Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > CHRIS CORRIGAN > > Consultation - Facilitation > > Open Space Technology > > > > http://www.chriscorrigan.com > > ch...@chriscorrigan.com > > > > * > > * > > ========================================================== > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > ------------------------------ > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, > > Visit: > > > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > > > * > > * > > ========================================================== > > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > ------------------------------ > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, > > Visit: > > > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > -- > > CHRIS CORRIGAN > Consultation - Facilitation > Open Space Technology > > http://www.chriscorrigan.com > ch...@chriscorrigan.com > > * > * > ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, > Visit: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > * > * > ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, > Visit: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
